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texico11
Joined: Feb 27, 2008


Posted: Feb 27, 2008 01:44 PM          Msg. 1 of 17
is it possible to create a map that will update and change?

reason i ask is that i was wondering if its possible to create a flood map, where water will rise over the 45 minute map period, creating cut-offs, floodings of rooms and drowning people who are completely submerged for too long. the water will reach the top of the map literally as the 45 minutes are up, and the winner will obviously be the person/team with the most kills/goals/time depending on what game-type there playing. cool features could be added like warning flashing lights and signs etc.

i want to learn about halo map creating, and then create a type of boat-style map, where the boat is sinking, maybe even with titanic skins etc. but first i want to know if its possible for the map to update itself in order for water levels to be rising.

finally, would something like this be stupidly complicated? i've seen some pretty ambishious map designs that i would of thought would be near-impossible.


Maniac1000
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Joined: Feb 24, 2007

Glasgow's Green and White


Posted: Feb 27, 2008 01:51 PM          Msg. 2 of 17
not sure about animated bsp's or anything like that but i do know mc cant drown.


texico11
Joined: Feb 27, 2008


Posted: Feb 27, 2008 02:03 PM          Msg. 3 of 17
could you not be clever by taking existing death files? i dont know much about how it all works but, for example, could you not take the damage output from the rocket launcher, slow the ammount of time it takes for the damage to take effect right down, and then merge that to the water file, and then create a "drowning" on-screen graphic, thats exactly timed to the damage rate of your doner rocket launcher.

or does it not work like that? :P


Maniac1000
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Posted: Feb 27, 2008 02:05 PM          Msg. 4 of 17
i really dont know if a damage can be attatched to water.


ODX
Joined: Jul 26, 2007


Posted: Feb 27, 2008 03:01 PM          Msg. 5 of 17
Quote: --- Original message by: Maniac1000
i really dont know if a damage can be attatched to water.

If you can having synchronizing vehicles on water, I would think you can do something to drown people in water.


Maniac1000
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Posted: Feb 27, 2008 03:07 PM          Msg. 6 of 17
mc has on a big bloody suit of armour, i dont think he can drown in that. they never made water relevant because of this i think.


delta49
Joined: Jan 23, 2007

I don't always make shaders..


Posted: Feb 27, 2008 03:52 PM          Msg. 7 of 17
according to the books the suit only has 90 minutes of air in space or water


Donut
Joined: Sep 30, 2006

minorities need not apply


Posted: Feb 27, 2008 05:58 PM          Msg. 8 of 17
k yah let me find anywhere in the halo campaign where theres enough water for me to sit there for 90 minutes and drown myself....
it even says it in the hek tutorial: water is nothing but fog and an animated plane because there were no missions specifically designed for water


jjwk544
Joined: Jun 30, 2007

That's Right, I'm Back. Again.


Posted: Feb 27, 2008 06:02 PM          Msg. 9 of 17
in H3 the water dosent drown you either in fact the only difference of the water is that dead bodies float on the water :P


Nexus Halo
Joined: Feb 24, 2007

Halo's Dark Knight http://www.nexushalo.kk5.org/


Posted: Feb 28, 2008 04:25 AM          Msg. 10 of 17
Quote: --- Original message by: jjwk544
in H3 the water dosent drown you either in fact the only difference of the water is that dead bodies float on the water :P


Which I find amazing since a Spartans armor is suppost to weigh a 1000 lbs.


MF Boom
Joined: Mar 5, 2007

I am the bone of my sword...


Posted: Feb 28, 2008 12:54 PM          Msg. 11 of 17
Quote: --- Original message by: Nexus Halo
Quote: --- Original message by: jjwk544
in H3 the water dosent drown you either in fact the only difference of the water is that dead bodies float on the water :P


Which I find amazing since a Spartans armor is suppost to weigh a 1000 lbs.


...Good point. That's an odd thought.


ty
Joined: Feb 18, 2008


Posted: Feb 28, 2008 01:14 PM          Msg. 12 of 17
Wow, those spartans are stronger then I thought. Seeing as I thought they where around 20-30 pounds.


ILLEGALLcheatsMAN
Joined: Aug 24, 2006

FGSFTS


Posted: Feb 28, 2008 02:32 PM          Msg. 13 of 17
Quote: --- Original message by: texico11
is it possible to create a map that will update and change?

reason i ask is that i was wondering if its possible to create a flood map, where water will rise over the 45 minute map period, creating cut-offs, floodings of rooms and drowning people who are completely submerged for too long. the water will reach the top of the map literally as the 45 minutes are up, and the winner will obviously be the person/team with the most kills/goals/time depending on what game-type there playing. cool features could be added like warning flashing lights and signs etc.

i want to learn about halo map creating, and then create a type of boat-style map, where the boat is sinking, maybe even with titanic skins etc. but first i want to know if its possible for the map to update itself in order for water levels to be rising.

finally, would something like this be stupidly complicated? i've seen some pretty ambishious map designs that i would of thought would be near-impossible.

It will have to be a screnery, and hten for drowning would need to be a trigger volume but i doubt you can make them move


NapalM
Joined: Jul 8, 2007

keke


Posted: Feb 28, 2008 03:23 PM          Msg. 14 of 17
The spartans armor displaces more water then its own weight. It's like a boat :-D


corndogman939
Joined: Apr 6, 2007

Using the same avatar since 2007


Posted: Feb 28, 2008 08:38 PM          Msg. 15 of 17
cheatsman is right you would have to make the water an animated scenery and add a death plane in the water (which i have no idea how to do) but i dont know if you can put death planes in the actual scenery object.


killer kiwi
Joined: Feb 10, 2007

live and let die


Posted: Feb 29, 2008 03:24 AM          Msg. 16 of 17
this can be done with a animated scenry and a script BUT would be a huge amount of work to get it going.

1 you would have to make a animated scenery with 90 different positions then you would have to make 90 different trigger volumes and write a script to make the scenery move and kill the mc if he was inside the trigger volume that corrspond with the position of the scenery.

It may also cause lagg


yukonmuffin
Joined: May 10, 2007

Breakn' Stuff to look tough.


Posted: Mar 1, 2008 04:26 PM          Msg. 17 of 17
if you could find a way to make it fast, i think a map like that would be worth the work. it sounds cool. You should watch POSIDEN

 

 
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