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Me2
Joined: Mar 28, 2009


Posted: Apr 25, 2009 03:53 AM    Msg. 1 of 51       
Is there any way to get the AI to sync on multiplayer game?


jacknme
Joined: Aug 29, 2008

If you see this, you must be in an old topic


Posted: Apr 25, 2009 04:04 AM    Msg. 2 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: Dennis
NO. AI do not sync under any circumstances. Period. End on line. It is technically impossible for them to sync. AI do not sync. AI do not sync. AI do not sync. Nothing you can do with the game engine will make them sync. AI do not sync in multiplayer games in Halo 1, CE or Halo 2. Remember this sentance: AI do not sync.


PVT Jenkins
Joined: Feb 23, 2009

Advance!!!!!


Posted: Apr 25, 2009 08:23 AM    Msg. 3 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: Me2
Is there any way to get the AI to sync on multiplayer game?

There is a way to get AI to syc but it's alot of hard work.And it requires that you change some settings in your pc I recommend not trying this.


sierra117
Joined: Jan 10, 2008

If sex is good exercise, why are there fat sluts?


Posted: Apr 25, 2009 08:27 AM    Msg. 4 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: jacknme
Quote: --- Original message by: Dennis
NO. AI do not sync under any circumstances. Period. End on line. It is technically impossible for them to sync. AI do not sync. AI do not sync. AI do not sync. Nothing you can do with the game engine will make them sync. AI do not sync in multiplayer games in Halo 1, CE or Halo 2. Remember this sentance: AI do not sync.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Apr 25, 2009 09:58 AM    Msg. 5 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: PVT Jenkins
Quote: --- Original message by: Me2
Is there any way to get the AI to sync on multiplayer game?

There is a way to get AI to syc but it's alot of hard work.And it requires that you change some settings in your pc I recommend not trying this.


No. This is false. There is NO WAY to ever get AI to sync on Halo Custom Edition.


ODST Mendosa
Joined: Mar 23, 2009

MHMS (Modern Halo Mapping\ Modding Sydicate)


Posted: Apr 25, 2009 11:49 AM    Msg. 6 of 51       
The videos on youtube that say Ai can sync are false they just want you subscribe to there video.


kirby_422
Joined: Jan 22, 2006

Apparently public enemy number 1?


Posted: Apr 25, 2009 11:50 AM    Msg. 7 of 51       
Play a map with no AI, then all the AI sync since there is no AI to attempt to sync in the first place. Simple as that.


Polamee
Joined: Feb 25, 2008

MP2SPMT's founder


Posted: Apr 26, 2009 05:41 AM    Msg. 8 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: kirby_422
Play a map with no AI, then all the AI sync since there is no AI to attempt to sync in the first place. Simple as that.


You're confusing it even more.....

No matter how hard you try, it is imposible to get AI to sync. Not even 'hard work' will get you there.


Sangheili2552
Joined: May 25, 2009

Wort wort wort!


Posted: May 25, 2009 11:06 PM    Msg. 9 of 51       
'normal' ai will not sync. the only way i can see of making syncing ai is to modify the mp cyborg to become ai controlled when certain commands are entered into the console, then enter the server and activate it.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: May 25, 2009 11:14 PM    Msg. 10 of 51       
No, that will not work, because the AI's actions still don't transfer. The only idea that should work, is if they possess the player. If that's what you were suggesting, then I'm sorry that I didn't understand what you were trying to say earlier. However, even if you were to do this, the player would have no control over their character. I don't know about you, but that's hardly much fun. And it's still normal AI. There is no other kind of AI.


Polamee
Joined: Feb 25, 2008

MP2SPMT's founder


Posted: May 26, 2009 07:57 AM    Msg. 11 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
No, that will not work, because the AI's actions still don't transfer. The only idea that should work, is if they possess the player. If that's what you were suggesting, then I'm sorry that I didn't understand what you were trying to say earlier. However, even if you were to do this, the player would have no control over their character. I don't know about you, but that's hardly much fun. And it's still normal AI. There is no other kind of AI.


No. Even if they did control the player, it would not sync over the host's server. The AI has variables, which is a choice of whether to do, say action a or b. Let's say action a is back off and b is throw a nade. So on some comps the AI controlled player will throw a grenade, on others it will flee. Therefore, there really is no way.

Nice bump.
Edited by Polamee on May 26, 2009 at 08:02 AM


jackrabbit
Joined: Apr 27, 2005

Fight Against the Machine of Deth!


Posted: May 26, 2009 08:01 AM    Msg. 12 of 51       
AI IS 4 SP!


Sabre
Joined: Dec 10, 2008

I joined RB in protecting Donut's avatar.


Posted: May 26, 2009 11:26 AM    Msg. 13 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: jackrabbit
AI IS 4 SP!


capslock and leet speak is for inexperienced people on the internet!


Mysterion
Joined: Aug 9, 2008

Nice shot, but too bad your @$$ just got SACKED!!!


Posted: May 26, 2009 04:20 PM    Msg. 14 of 51       


Headhunter09
Joined: May 6, 2008

This is the truth.


Posted: May 26, 2009 04:52 PM    Msg. 15 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: Mysterion
What is this about???

http://www.modhalo.net/index.php?showtopic=11834


people failing.


Nexus Halo
Joined: Feb 24, 2007

Halo's Dark Knight http://www.nexushalo.kk5.org/


Posted: May 26, 2009 05:05 PM    Msg. 16 of 51       
AI doesn't sync.
There isn't a secret way to make them sync.
Slash thread.


PVT Jenkins
Joined: Feb 23, 2009

Advance!!!!!


Posted: May 26, 2009 05:55 PM    Msg. 17 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
Quote: --- Original message by: PVT Jenkins
Quote: --- Original message by: Me2
Is there any way to get the AI to sync on multiplayer game?

There is a way to get AI to syc but it's alot of hard work.And it requires that you change some settings in your pc I recommend not trying this.


No. This is false. There is NO WAY to ever get AI to sync on Halo Custom Edition.

I told you AI can sync =P


Sabre
Joined: Dec 10, 2008

I joined RB in protecting Donut's avatar.


Posted: May 26, 2009 06:00 PM    Msg. 18 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: PVT Jenkins
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
Quote: --- Original message by: PVT Jenkins
Quote: --- Original message by: Me2
Is there any way to get the AI to sync on multiplayer game?

There is a way to get AI to syc but it's alot of hard work.And it requires that you change some settings in your pc I recommend not trying this.


No. This is false. There is NO WAY to ever get AI to sync on Halo Custom Edition.

I told you AI can sync =P



F-F-F-F-F-F-FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIL.

Quote: --- Original message by: jacknme
Quote: --- Original message by: Dennis
NO. AI do not sync under any circumstances. Period. End on line. It is technically impossible for them to sync. AI do not sync. AI do not sync. AI do not sync. Nothing you can do with the game engine will make them sync. AI do not sync in multiplayer games in Halo 1, CE or Halo 2. Remember this sentance: AI do not sync.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: May 26, 2009 06:31 PM    Msg. 19 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: PVT Jenkins
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
Quote: --- Original message by: PVT Jenkins
Quote: --- Original message by: Me2
Is there any way to get the AI to sync on multiplayer game?

There is a way to get AI to syc but it's alot of hard work.And it requires that you change some settings in your pc I recommend not trying this.


No. This is false. There is NO WAY to ever get AI to sync on Halo Custom Edition.

I told you AI can sync =P


No, they don't. I did a test on my latest AI testing map, where I invited a few friends, to play. Once we were all ingame, I restarted the game, and then placed the AI through the AI pause menu. After a while, once the AI had dispersed, my friends began dying for unknown reasons. They told me that they had no idea what was going on, and they left the game. This hardly seems like a successful AI test.


Nexus Halo
Joined: Feb 24, 2007

Halo's Dark Knight http://www.nexushalo.kk5.org/


Posted: May 26, 2009 06:59 PM    Msg. 20 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: PVT Jenkins
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
Quote: --- Original message by: PVT Jenkins
Quote: --- Original message by: Me2
Is there any way to get the AI to sync on multiplayer game?

There is a way to get AI to syc but it's alot of hard work.And it requires that you change some settings in your pc I recommend not trying this.


No. This is false. There is NO WAY to ever get AI to sync on Halo Custom Edition.

I told you AI can sync =P


Lies. AI syncing in Halo isn't possible. As I said before there isn't a secret way to do it. It just can't happen period.

Even though it doesn't work I still want to know what you think you need to do to your PC to get it to work. What is it that you don't recommend us not trying? Is it because it won't work so you don't look like a moron? Yes.


Me KS
Joined: Feb 2, 2008

Desire is Reality. Xfire: jetmaster23


Posted: May 26, 2009 07:06 PM    Msg. 21 of 51       
^ And to back that up, here are screenshots from the exact same spot in Hugeass from two PCs, one is hosting, and one joined the other's game:

Server Side:



Client Side:



Clearly they don't sync very well.


chrisk123999
Joined: Aug 10, 2008

=CE= Chris [Captain] [=]


Posted: May 26, 2009 07:09 PM    Msg. 22 of 51       
Stop beating a dead horse, AI don't sync. Get over it.
Edited by chrisk123999 on May 26, 2009 at 08:13 PM


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: May 26, 2009 07:12 PM    Msg. 23 of 51       
Do medical tests on the horse. It's not dead, and AI don't sync.


Nexus Halo
Joined: Feb 24, 2007

Halo's Dark Knight http://www.nexushalo.kk5.org/


Posted: May 26, 2009 07:14 PM    Msg. 24 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: chrisk123999
Stop beating a dead horse, AI don't sync. Get over it.


FIFY.

If you honestly think they sync then you know nothing of this game engine.


Headhunter09
Joined: May 6, 2008

This is the truth.


Posted: May 26, 2009 07:23 PM    Msg. 25 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: chrisk123999
Stop beating a dead horse, AI sync. Get over it.


do I hear a quiet whisper of sarcasm in this post?


chrisk123999
Joined: Aug 10, 2008

=CE= Chris [Captain] [=]


Posted: May 26, 2009 08:13 PM    Msg. 26 of 51       
Very very bad mis-type.
The complete opposite of what I meant to say.


Ethereial
Joined: May 19, 2009

O_O


Posted: May 27, 2009 01:16 AM    Msg. 27 of 51       
Well, as far as I know, the only way to get AI to sync is to find a way to play Halo on co-op - on the PC. Impossible. But still, you can set animations or orders for the AI to go to a specific place or do something specific(like a dropship approaching), but that has to be triggered. Impossible in multiplayer.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: May 27, 2009 10:04 AM    Msg. 28 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: Ethereial
Well, as far as I know, the only way to get AI to sync is to find a way to play Halo on co-op - on the PC. Impossible. But still, you can set animations or orders for the AI to go to a specific place or do something specific(like a dropship approaching), but that has to be triggered. Impossible in multiplayer.


It's possible for MP. However, the reason why AI don't sync, is because their actions don't carry over the internet. If on the host's computer, the AI rolls to dodge a grenade, he may not do the same on the client.


Sangheili2552
Joined: May 25, 2009

Wort wort wort!


Posted: May 27, 2009 06:08 PM    Msg. 29 of 51       
yeah, getting ai to sync would require you to change how halo ce works in multiplayer. nothing you could do to the tags or maps would make ai sync.


Anyways, what is it exactly that makes vehicles and other things sync?
Edited by Sangheili2552 on May 27, 2009 at 06:18 PM


Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008


Posted: May 27, 2009 06:41 PM    Msg. 30 of 51       
Vehicles sync because Bungie coded vehicles to sync :\


Mysterion
Joined: Aug 9, 2008

Nice shot, but too bad your @$$ just got SACKED!!!


Posted: May 27, 2009 08:56 PM    Msg. 31 of 51       
If vehicles sync, and an AI is driving a vehicle (which should sync), why doesn't the AI driven vehicle sync?


DaGreat B R I A N
Joined: May 16, 2009

Move it, Marines!


Posted: May 27, 2009 08:57 PM    Msg. 32 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: Mysterion
If vehicles sync, and an AI is driving a vehicle (which should sync), why doesn't the AI driven vehicle sync?


Because AI don't sync, and even though vehicles do, AI do not, so it cancels out vehicle syncing when an AI is in a vehicle.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: May 27, 2009 10:36 PM    Msg. 33 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: Mysterion
If vehicles sync, and an AI is driving a vehicle (which should sync), why doesn't the AI driven vehicle sync?


It does, but the firing does not. The players may take damage from absolutely nothing. However, only fighting AI inside vehicles doesn't really stimulate the mind.


chrisk123999
Joined: Aug 10, 2008

=CE= Chris [Captain] [=]


Posted: May 27, 2009 11:06 PM    Msg. 34 of 51       
Say you had an AI in the gunner of a Hog. Wouldn't the direction of the gun sync? So, it would be pretty hard not to tell what your getting shot from. Or do you mean an AI in the passenger seat?


Sangheili2552
Joined: May 25, 2009

Wort wort wort!


Posted: May 28, 2009 11:56 AM    Msg. 35 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: Advancebo
Vehicles sync because Bungie coded vehicles to sync :\


Could you be a little more specific?

 
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