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MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008

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Posted: Oct 28, 2010 07:42 AM    Msg. 1 of 51       
OK, so just look at this page:
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=1
...
Notice the increase in the amount of unoriginal Halo 3 Map mods?
It seems we are gaining more SphinxBio clones.
What are your thoughts? Personally, I'm sick of seeing this.


Cocaine
Joined: Mar 2, 2009

Can't stop napping.


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 08:12 AM    Msg. 2 of 51       
You're only angry because YOU placed the

Prefix infront of your own map name =p
Yeah, those are annoying, but what can a guy do?



Xander92
Joined: May 31, 2010

I`m Russian,you maggot.


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 09:21 AM    Msg. 3 of 51       
DAMN IT!!!!! AT LEAST USE JESSE`S H3 HUD
and im downloadin the V1 sandtrap to see whats the difference...


Cocaine
Joined: Mar 2, 2009

Can't stop napping.


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 09:28 AM    Msg. 4 of 51       
Noticed some of those text size errors. Someone enlighten me.


Xander92
Joined: May 31, 2010

I`m Russian,you maggot.


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 09:58 AM    Msg. 5 of 51       
well the gravity hammer is nice,but it does`t have the blue effect when it hits..
the hud is crappy as hell and the brute shot as well...


Maniac1000
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Posted: Oct 28, 2010 11:48 AM    Msg. 6 of 51       
i believe Spanish ( or "Mexican" as you call it) is a more commonly spoken language than English.


AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010

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Posted: Oct 28, 2010 12:09 PM    Msg. 7 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: assassinchief106
Not to mention the strings. I mean, come on, replacing one of the most common used languages in the world to Mexican?


English isn't the only language in this world.

Open your mind.


StatutoryTrOy
Joined: Jul 6, 2010

Go Army Beat Navy!


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 12:25 PM    Msg. 8 of 51       
english is the most spoken language in the world, either english or chinese, but considering there are hundreds of chinese dialects english is probably the most spoken language.


Edit: yep i'm right: http://www.krysstal.com/spoken.html
Edited by StatutoryTrOy on Oct 28, 2010 at 12:27 PM


SeanTheLawn
Joined: Sep 4, 2007


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 12:53 PM    Msg. 9 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: assassinchief106
Umm.. but it's VERY common.. It needs to be in English, Halo was originally in English, so it must be kept in English. Mexican isn't the only language in this world.


It's Spanish, not Mexican. And stop acting so ignorant and closeminded.
Edited by SeanTheLawn on Oct 28, 2010 at 12:54 PM


d4rfnader
Joined: Jul 16, 2010

Open mouth, insert sandwhich.


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 01:20 PM    Msg. 10 of 51       
Lol, i laughed when i saw that, and seriously, why does it matter if they're in spanish? It's not all that hard to translate lol, and don't forget that those people are contributing.


SeanTheLawn
Joined: Sep 4, 2007


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 01:20 PM    Msg. 11 of 51       
No. I'm from the US. Do I speak American? No. Technically I speak American English, but we refer to it as English. Same thing with Mexico. And you're ignorant and close minded because of this:

Quote: --- Original message by: assassinchief106
Halo was originally in English, so it must be kept in English.


Ever wanted to watch a foreign movie? I bet that would be super fun without English subtitles. Just because something was originally made in a language doesn't mean it should be kept in that language.


d4rfnader
Joined: Jul 16, 2010

Open mouth, insert sandwhich.


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 01:29 PM    Msg. 12 of 51       
Lol, still, it's no reason to say they can't put all of the strings in their first language.


SeanTheLawn
Joined: Sep 4, 2007


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 01:39 PM    Msg. 13 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: assassinchief106
So what, Sphinx is now Halo's official game translator?


When did anyone say anything like this? I'll answer for you: they didn't. Stop jumping to irrational and illogical conclusions, you've already done it twice in this thread. And before you ask, here's the other one:

Quote: --- Original message by: assassinchief106
So I'm ignorant and close minded because I'm not Mexican? Cool.


I usually don't bother with pointless discussions like this on these forums because I know it's just a hassle for Dennis, but you really need to grow up.


MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008

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Posted: Oct 28, 2010 02:37 PM    Msg. 14 of 51       
Jesus Christ, guys. You got into another argument this fast? Back on topic please.

So... in what ways could we promote originality among newer members instead of the rip-compile-repeat trend?


d4rfnader
Joined: Jul 16, 2010

Open mouth, insert sandwhich.


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 02:39 PM    Msg. 15 of 51       
Well, i think shadowslayer is forming a team of new members for custom content.


SeanTheLawn
Joined: Sep 4, 2007


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 02:58 PM    Msg. 16 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: MoooseGuy
So... in what ways could we promote originality among newer members instead of the rip-compile-repeat trend?


I think the problem with Sphinx (or whatever his name is) and some others is that they speak Spanish natively, and all the tutorials are in English. Because of this, it is much harder for them to learn. If someone speaks fluent English and Spanish, they should try translating some of the tutorials.


MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008

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Posted: Oct 28, 2010 04:15 PM    Msg. 17 of 51       
Quote:
Sphinxbio!: http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=5554
MoooseGuy: dude
MoooseGuy: just no
Sphinxbio!: ?
Sphinxbio!: wait
MoooseGuy: you went too far with this map
MoooseGuy: naming it to confuse ppl into thinking its the original
MoooseGuy: not cool
Sphinxbio!: as I went too far?
do you mean?
talk to Yoko just asked not to release the rest elites did not care!
MoooseGuy: its the naming that is bothering people
Sphinxbio!: halomaps also did not put the credits to tell everyone I gave them credit! but halomaps not put!
MoooseGuy: the name, dude. the name
Sphinxbio!: V1?
MoooseGuy: yeah, the name makes people think that your map is the original
Sphinxbio!: Jesse is the Author of V2 so I would not put V2 poorque if not could not publish it!
MoooseGuy: so it cheats the original map makers
Sphinxbio!: D=
Sphinxbio!: I'm sorry
MoooseGuy: lol, just try to make the names as different as u can from the oringal
MoooseGuy: so it doesnt confuse ppl
Sphinxbio!: okas
MoooseGuy: :P


It seems, he had no idea of the problems, we need to educate these guys, lol. So, he wasn't meaning for any of this I guess....


SeanTheLawn
Joined: Sep 4, 2007


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 04:21 PM    Msg. 18 of 51       
Yeah it seems that the language barrier has caused quite a bit of misunderstanding. I'm gonna go over to http://halomexico.com/ and see if anyone speaks English well enough to help translate some tutorials.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 04:45 PM    Msg. 19 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: MoooseGuy
It seems, he had no idea of the problems, we need to educate these guys, lol. So, he wasn't meaning for any of this I guess....


Bolshevik. If I got a dollar every time he said "I'm sorry" or something along those lines, I'd have approximately 27 dollars. He never means it, and every time you try to tell him what's going on, even in Spanish, he never changes.


Corvette19
Joined: Feb 27, 2007


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 04:52 PM    Msg. 20 of 51       
So?


milkkookie
Joined: Aug 10, 2010

:)


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 05:18 PM    Msg. 21 of 51       
every 1 loves halo 3 > yeah but i kind of agree with u to many halo 3 maps


eliteslasher
Joined: Jun 30, 2008

Crysis 3!!!!!!! All I have to say. :D


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 05:57 PM    Msg. 22 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: assassinchief106
How ironic coming from a dude that actually made an H3 map.


How ironic that is the only map I am considering downloading. Wizz is a map I am actually interested in though it may need a new unwrap on much of it and some of the textures need an update.
That map is awesome!
Needs a player clip bubble or something over the top though cuz you can nade jump to the top there if you do it just right.


MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008

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Posted: Oct 28, 2010 06:16 PM    Msg. 23 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: milkkookie
every 1 loves halo 3 > yeah but i kind of agree with u to many halo 3 maps

And then theres....
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5555
Um... yeah I wonder who made that?


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 06:25 PM    Msg. 24 of 51       
I think i started this trend D:

I used bracket H3 bracket on many of my released, and non-released maps. I also used bracket H2 bracket but now i am using something different.
Edited by jesse on Oct 28, 2010 at 06:26 PM


warchieftain
Joined: Nov 14, 2008

Tar-21 ftw


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 06:44 PM    Msg. 25 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: milkkookie
every 1 loves halo 3 > yeah but i kind of agree with u to many halo 3 maps


It is what it is...atleast they are contributing to the community in some way. Now i've said this once or twice before: if you don't like it don't download it.
I am personally annoyed that the new solitude firefight hasen't benn upploaded yet
( seriously please just give us a mediafire link )

Personally i look forward to all the [Hreach]maps :P


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 07:10 PM    Msg. 26 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: gnademassica117
Quote: --- Original message by: Gamma927
Quote: --- Original message by: MoooseGuy
It seems, he had no idea of the problems, we need to educate these guys, lol. So, he wasn't meaning for any of this I guess....


Bolshevik. If I got a dollar every time he said "I'm sorry" or something along those lines, I'd have approximately 27 dollars. He never means it, and every time you try to tell him what's going on, even in Spanish, he never changes.
Do you release anything, Gamma? Do you use other people's content? I never knew about the map Portent until a long time after Portent_Firefight. You are NOT superior to him, and he doesn't HAVE to apologise for anything. To be honest, you are annoying me by acting as though you do everything right, and him wrong. There is no rule that says give credit.

Dear me, someone seems to be pissed today.

1) Releases are arbitrary. If you view releases as an important factor in one's personality, putting quantity over quality, then you're emphasizing a certain greed in your own character. If all one cares about is how many maps one releases, then an issue is obviously apparent. Why are we in this community? To quote ODX, we should map for fun, not fame. What do I care about my reputation here? I create maps for fun, not to release and get a thousand downloads. Of course, this philosophy means nothing to you. If I don't release everything I make, that automatically deigns me as inferior. I can see where you're coming from, but that's rather shifty ground there.

2) Do I use other people's content? Yes I do. One thing I do whenever I release, is provide credit to everyone I can remember that assisted in creating the map. However, I'm merely human, and can't always remember every person who contributed to the map. I usually try to go back and change the credits to include whoever I've forgotten, though in some cases, that's nonapplicable. Realize that Firefight Portent was never intended to be released. However, the public, you, wanted the map released. I usually try not to release maps using content obtained without permission from the tag's creator.

3) Am I superior? I find this to be an interesting point that you've made. No where have I ever claimed that I am superior, though yes, I tend to act in favor of my own beliefs (sorry, I'm not non-partisan). However, do you find it an issue if the creators of the tags have issues with others using the tags? They spent the time into making their stuff, and it somehow gets leaked before being used for its intended purpose. I'm sure they should have some say in how their stuff gets used. Of course, you're probably going to view this as selfishness. Fine. They're selfish for pouring their time into a hobby, and creating tags for someone to use. They're selfish for not wanting to share that with the rest of the community. The rippers are righteous and justified in ripping and sharing their content from leaked maps. Not sure about you, but I seem to see an issue with this. Even if they are selfish, I'm sure the creator's wishes should remain important. After all, they were the ones who created the stuff. But wait! Everything that goes through tool is Microsoft / Bungie's property. From this point of view, they should have no say at all about their own tags, their own content. Everything should be publicly distributed, a socialist scheme per say. For some reason, quite a few countries around the world (the United States, Australia, Canada to say a few) remain capitalist, advocating economic opportunity over socialist distribution. I'm sure there's a reason as to why people choose capitalism over socialism, which would be the same reason as to why some people choose to protect their tags.

Now, back to the main point. Am I superior? Superiority has nothing to do with this. I act not because I view myself as superior, but because I choose to defend the wishes and choices of others. These aren't even my tags that Sphinx is using; rather, most of them are those of friends. I've asked him before, politely, nonpolitely, and in numerous other fashions, to not use leaked tags at least until the usage from the original team. Why? Assume you're a random map downloader, not part of the community. Let's say you see an awesome weapon, which was put into the map by Sphinxbio. Obviously, you've never seen it before, so you worship the maps made by Sphinxbio, assuming he has the best weapons. Shouldn't it be a privilege of a team to use their own tags before they're used by others? Thus, people will assume that Sphinxbio was the original creator of such tags. Do you know how many times I've been asked that I should work with Sphinxbio because he always has the best tags? It's disheartening after a while, to see the indoctrination that new members undergo.

4) Does he have to apologize? Actions speak louder than words. What I can't stand is him continuously playing stupid, pretending not to understand what I mean. Then, he continues along his merry way, continuing with the same conduct as he has for over a year. After the release of Firefight, he came to me, and said that he liked the protection scheme I used. Then he declared that he would spend the rest of his day to cracking it. Wouldn't you find it rude if someone told you that you had a nice burglar alarm system, and that they would devote every waking moment to breaking past it? Of course, I've forgotten that you and many view Sphinxbio in a Robin Hood light, as one who takes from the rich and provides for the needy. What annoys me time after time is that this attitude spreads, corrupting the younger generations. Of course, I may be wrong and evil, and Sphinxbio be good and righteous. Were this the case, wouldn't tag producers flock to him to ask him to publish their tags? (ODX, this isn't addressed at you :V I'm still going to do it >>) If he's truly the master of open source that so many worship, then why don't more people choose to work with him to provide him tags? Why must he resort to ripping and using leaked tags? That was rhetorical, by the way. The reason as to why he chooses to ripping and using leaked tags, is because no one provides him such tags. Sure, this may portray him as a needy person using what he has. However, even after being provided tags, he continues to devote his time to the extraction of other people's tags. This consistent greed represents the voraciousness of human greed, one of our many flaws, or you could view it as the hunger of the flood, continuously desiring more and more. Would you not view this as an inherent flaw, one that must be overcome?

5) I'll agree that there's no rule that states to give credit. However, this is a positive taboo in this community. Sure, there's no rule that states that you shouldn't talk about sexual pleasures during family get-togethers. That doesn't necessarily mean that you should, nor that you would. You restrain yourself from doing such things because it's an inherent instinct, one strengthened by society. Scale this down to this community. Credit is a taboo, with the community representing a small scale society. You don't have to respect this, nor are you required to, but many do, because it represents their place in the community. You could stand out as an outsider, as L'Étranger if you're French, but it wouldn't bode well for your relationship within the community. Likewise, whether you agree or not, I am a part of this community, and I'm voicing my concerns for the violation of a taboo. If you wish to criticize me on this part, then you'd have to do so as L'Étranger.

Now, you may be wondering why in these 5 points, I never covered your second last statement, about me acting as if everything I did was right. As I said, I'm non-partisan, and I am and always will be biased towards myself. However, if you do intelligently debate these points with me, I will respect your opinion and change my conduct if you so convince me.

Edit: Please do remember to read the whole thing before posting back at me. If you haven't, I won't respond to your future accusations because of their unintelligible nature.

Second edit: Formatted
Edited by Gamma927 on Oct 28, 2010 at 07:25 PM


Maniac1000
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Posted: Oct 28, 2010 07:13 PM    Msg. 27 of 51       
:)
now do it in halo script format.


Dwood
Joined: Oct 23, 2007

Judge Ye Therefore


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 07:23 PM    Msg. 28 of 51       
Well he just needs to space out each point and format it so that it's more easily readable. :)


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 07:25 PM    Msg. 29 of 51       
Formatted to some extent :]


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 07:31 PM    Msg. 30 of 51       
If the content of the post is too difficult for you to understand, I shudder to think of humanity's future.


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 07:38 PM    Msg. 31 of 51       
lololol

[16:20] Gamma927: this guy's screwed
[16:20] Gamma927: either he has to read it
[16:21] Gamma927: and suffer the horror
[16:21] Gamma927: or i don't have to answer his points
[16:21] Gamma927: because he didn't read my points
[16:21] Gamma927: win win :3


SlappyThePirate
Joined: Aug 24, 2009

You are irritating, I'll release nothing


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 07:42 PM    Msg. 32 of 51       
You both come in second.


AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010

- Animator... suck it -


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 08:06 PM    Msg. 33 of 51       
It's like a second grader arguing with the president.

I'll let you sort out who is who on that one.

Quote: Unless you have some sort of medical condition (No offence) then you would probably be able to tell I was being sarcastic.


I will say this once, and only once:

SARCASM + INTERNET = HELL
Edited by AGLion on Oct 28, 2010 at 08:09 PM


StatutoryTrOy
Joined: Jul 6, 2010

Go Army Beat Navy!


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 08:09 PM    Msg. 34 of 51       
Quote: --- Original message by: AGLion
It's like a second grader arguing with the president.

I'll let you sort out who is who on that one.


our president is the equivalent of a second grader, be more precise :)


dood
Joined: Sep 9, 2010

programming will never end..


Posted: Oct 28, 2010 08:25 PM    Msg. 35 of 51       
relax guys.....lol...we all just make map so poeple can enjoy it and play it for fun,its not about who the best or anything,and dam yhe point gamma put down is really long...can someone convert to shorter point form......

 
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