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Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Nov 6, 2010 10:56 PM    Msg. 1 of 40       
So I laugh at how dumb people are at rating? Seriously, here is a fine example of a a bunch of tards:

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=2930

This map is a freaking box with a low res heightmap, with no structures, and just vehicles essentially. It is rated a 7.8

My map which i released meh, like August, rated a 7.6:

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5414

What is it that all of you who vote look for? It is quite shocking to see that my map beats that map visually, game play wise, creativity, and effort, but yet it still has a lower rating? It absolutely makes no sense that the other map could possibly get a higher rating, there must be a hidden noob element that i can add to a map to increase overall likeness of the map. I want to know what it is.

/rant, more or less for lolz, but who knows.


CorruptedHalo
Joined: May 18, 2009


Posted: Nov 6, 2010 10:58 PM    Msg. 2 of 40       
Welcome to Halomaps. Hope you didn't expect it to make sense.


doompig444
Joined: Mar 22, 2010

MorniŽ alantiŽ


Posted: Nov 6, 2010 11:16 PM    Msg. 3 of 40       
It's nothing new, man. Ambry is clearly the better map by far, but this type of stuff happens all the time.

For example, how does this crappy firefight:
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5336
Have a 9.1 rating.

But THIS work of art firefight:
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5169
Have only an 8.4?

One of life's great mysteries, isn't it?


pwner5889
Joined: Jun 13, 2008


Posted: Nov 6, 2010 11:46 PM    Msg. 4 of 40       
Quote: --- Original message by: doompig444
It's nothing new, man. Ambry is clearly the better map by far, but this type of stuff happens all the time.

For example, how does this crappy firefight:
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5336
Have a 9.1 rating.

But THIS work of art firefight:
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5169
Have only an 8.4?

One of life's great mysteries, isn't it?


Firefight portent didn't bog my PC down like no tomorrow. Unlike b40 firefight. lol Sorry. HAD to step in there. hehe


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

HaloCE3.com MattDratt.com


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 12:10 AM    Msg. 5 of 40       
I know. There are some SP maps out there that deserve [below] 3 stars. Example: http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=4815

I don't understand some people who rate things
Edited by MatthewDratt on Nov 7, 2010 at 12:11 AM


d4rfnader
Joined: Jul 16, 2010

Open mouth, insert sandwhich.


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 12:21 AM    Msg. 6 of 40       
Ambry has more downloads than that other map lol.


Maniac1000
-Helpful Poster-
Joined: Feb 24, 2007


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 12:31 AM    Msg. 7 of 40       
All my crappy maps are better than yours Newb :)


Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 01:03 AM    Msg. 8 of 40       
its a matter of the number of people that download it.

More people downloaded your Ambry map, 3390 at 7.6
Only 2451 people downloaded Volcan, at 7.8

Its like:
Map A - 5 people download: 10, 8, 5, 10, 7. = 7.8
Map B - 10 people download: 10, 8, 6, 9, 6, 3, 10, 9, 7, 8. = 7.6


IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010

-Minor modeler-


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 02:04 AM    Msg. 9 of 40       
heh ambry's beating the other one by 0.3 now.
the other one should get effing 6 or less.


NeiaG
Joined: May 18, 2008

Ohai Mark


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 02:35 AM    Msg. 10 of 40       
Quote: --- Original message by: ASP_GRUNTS
Bloodgulch with nukes will pretty much get a 10 rating. That's just how it is, deal with it =P.


If that's the case, I'm gonna make a BG map with Scarabs, Longswords, Mythos', and them all shoot many nukes a second. Instant 11/10!


Cocaine
Joined: Mar 2, 2009

Can't stop napping.


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 02:54 AM    Msg. 11 of 40       
Extinction.


Torih315
Joined: May 9, 2010

Nice night for a walk.


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 03:35 AM    Msg. 12 of 40       
What I noticed that most people, sadly even my friends, prefer maps like extinction, coldsnap, and doomsday. They say that itís for the variety of vehicles and weapons that take no skill to operate...

Ambry has a lot to offer, just no to the majority of the playing community...the ones with 10 year old computers...


MegaSquirrel
Joined: May 26, 2009

Deal with it nerd


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 11:37 AM    Msg. 13 of 40       
Buttmad your map isn't popular


Gamma927
Joined: Jun 12, 2008

Steam: gamma927


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 12:05 PM    Msg. 14 of 40       
People rate maps by what they like to see. What they like to see differs from what the community likes to see. For instance:

A mod of a map with a bunch of ripped stuff stuck inside will generally receive better ratings than a custom BSP with classic weapons. Though the community prefers the latter, the former will still achieve higher ratings due to the large amount of "shiny" weapons inside.


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 01:03 PM    Msg. 15 of 40       
The people have different tastes then the author does normally. Also normally, lots of "advertising" and showing the map off gets definitely more downloads.


ally
Joined: Jun 23, 2010

Aye Ready


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 01:15 PM    Msg. 16 of 40       


rocketracer294
Joined: Sep 29, 2010

man of few words


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 03:52 PM    Msg. 17 of 40       
You can do any one or more of the following:
1. Make a Single Player map.

2. Insert some of those tags that have high ratings, but are rarely used.

3. New Weapons and Vehicles are always fun.

4. Get hype so that people will anticipate your releases

5. Make a map with a cool twist (Like those ones where you are in Samus's power suite, or that one with medieval weapons).

Unfortunately, many of those maps are never played online.

On another matter:
Quote: --- Original message by: ally
even this has a 9.0 rating http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5471

That is because it is actually very, very fun in slayer. There were a few games in it on the day of its release.

On one more matter, this map http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5128 should have at least a 9.0 rating. It is one of the best C20 mods. Instead, It was given an 8.1.
Edited by rocketracer294 on Nov 7, 2010 at 04:01 PM


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 06:08 PM    Msg. 18 of 40       
Well simple really, it's halomaps. Full of people who don't have a clue what they are talking about ect.


eliteslasher
Joined: Jun 30, 2008

Crysis 3!!!!!!! All I have to say. :D


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 06:29 PM    Msg. 19 of 40       
Quote: --- Original message by: ally
even this has a 9.0 rating http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5471


RPG style has less of a need for special modeling/texturing. The point is to get as many situations for RP as possible. It is logical to assume that this has high ratings because people who are mainly normal gametype players do not rate and/or download, and people who RP download and rate.


dood
Joined: Sep 9, 2010

programming will never end..


Posted: Nov 7, 2010 07:49 PM    Msg. 20 of 40       
*post deleted by admin for rules violation
READ THE RULES:
http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=2979

Bypassed profanity filter
Edited by Dennis on Nov 7, 2010 at 09:12 PM


IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010

-Minor modeler-


Posted: Nov 8, 2010 01:46 AM    Msg. 21 of 40       
Lol I noticed all the "bad" maps with high ratings you guys link to no longer have such high ratings by the time I go look. have a feeling you guys have been rating them down ever since they got a bit more publicity.


milkkookie
Joined: Aug 10, 2010

:)


Posted: Nov 8, 2010 06:10 PM    Msg. 22 of 40       
it dosent matter how good the map looks, all that matters is that the people who play the maps enjoy them


ally
Joined: Jun 23, 2010

Aye Ready


Posted: Nov 8, 2010 08:20 PM    Msg. 23 of 40       
true,it is mainly about having fun in the map,but it would be good to see some of the better maps get the rating they deserve for the work that's put into them.


Newbkilla
Joined: Mar 9, 2008

- Artist, Environment Artist, Level Designer -


Posted: Nov 8, 2010 09:53 PM    Msg. 24 of 40       
Quote: --- Original message by: milkkookie
it dosent matter how good the map looks, all that matters is that the people who play the maps enjoy them


This logic fails because of this:


Caboose117
Joined: Jul 23, 2006

Seriously guys?


Posted: Nov 8, 2010 09:58 PM    Msg. 25 of 40       
Now I'm not saying that's good by any stretch of the imagination, however, I can see a few people being entertained by that for a good while... Considering the amount of time it'd take for them to find one another....


CorruptedHalo
Joined: May 18, 2009


Posted: Nov 8, 2010 09:58 PM    Msg. 26 of 40       
Guys I just realized something.
This thread isn't locked.


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Nov 8, 2010 10:11 PM    Msg. 27 of 40       
I kinda figured Dennis would lock it just for kicks.


chuckluck
Joined: Dec 27, 2008

"It's like Democracy, but with fists..."


Posted: Nov 8, 2010 10:26 PM    Msg. 28 of 40       
Problem? Umad?


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.Ē ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Nov 8, 2010 11:10 PM    Msg. 29 of 40       
Quote: --- Original message by: jesse
I kinda figured Dennis would lock it just for kicks.
Why would I? It is a valid subject and no one is spamming, flaming or breaking the rules.

It is interesting to see how people think of or consider the ratings. Especially since they are statistically invalid as a metric of personal subjectivity.


Edited by Dennis on Nov 8, 2010 at 11:10 PM


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Nov 8, 2010 11:25 PM    Msg. 30 of 40       
Quote: --- Original message by: Newbkilla
Quote: --- Original message by: milkkookie
it dosent matter how good the map looks, all that matters is that the people who play the maps enjoy them


This logic fails because of this:


Ahem.

You can clearly see advanced lighting, and shader rendering. I mean LOOK at those shadows :O

And you see the snow on the 45 degree slope? Halo is the only game known to do that!!!11!
And the tanks,... oh man those look so damn real, and you can shoot nukes with them. It takes extremely advanced technology for such things. Who wants balance when you can have chaos and mayhem!


ally
Joined: Jun 23, 2010

Aye Ready


Posted: Nov 8, 2010 11:28 PM    Msg. 31 of 40       
off topic but its still maps look what i just found

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5079

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=374
some of you guys will remember them...for me it's the first time knowing they existed.


HaloIsAHorribleGane
Joined: Nov 9, 2010

I'd rather play yahtzee


Posted: Nov 9, 2010 04:18 AM    Msg. 32 of 40       
Quote: --- Original message by: Newbkilla
So I laugh at how dumb people are at rating? Seriously, here is a fine example of a a bunch of tards:

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=2930

This map is a freaking box with a low res heightmap, with no structures, and just vehicles essentially. It is rated a 7.8

My map which i released meh, like August, rated a 7.6:

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5414

What is it that all of you who vote look for? It is quite shocking to see that my map beats that map visually, game play wise, creativity, and effort, but yet it still has a lower rating? It absolutely makes no sense that the other map could possibly get a higher rating, there must be a hidden noob element that i can add to a map to increase overall likeness of the map. I want to know what it is.

/rant, more or less for lolz, but who knows.


wow

okay, so you're mad because nobody gives a crap about your map. why the hell do you care about the rating? it's a freaking number. maybe you should stop trying to gain e-fame by making maps for a dead game and do what inspires you and actually work toward a decent career.
Edited by HaloIsAHorribleGane on Nov 9, 2010 at 05:05 AM


AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010

- Animator... suck it -


Posted: Nov 9, 2010 08:18 AM    Msg. 33 of 40       
I find it amusing that you actually think anybody here is concerned about their career.


HaloIsAHorribleGane
Joined: Nov 9, 2010

I'd rather play yahtzee


Posted: Nov 9, 2010 08:42 AM    Msg. 34 of 40       
good point


sargejohnson
Joined: Apr 20, 2009

Shall we play a game?


Posted: Nov 9, 2010 08:43 AM    Msg. 35 of 40       
Quote: --- Original message by: AGLion
I find it amusing that you actually think anybody here is concerned about their career.


well, other than Dennis, and certain more mature members, that is true.

And why care about the ratings either? The post below states clearly why the ratings aren't reliable.
Quote: --- Original message by: Advancebo
its a matter of the number of people that download it.

More people downloaded your Ambry map, 3390 at 7.6
Only 2451 people downloaded Volcan, at 7.8

Its like:
Map A - 5 people download: 10, 8, 5, 10, 7. = 7.8
Map B - 10 people download: 10, 8, 6, 9, 6, 3, 10, 9, 7, 8. = 7.6

 
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