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Skyancez3o4
Joined: Apr 6, 2010

I miss CE


Posted: Nov 15, 2010 07:11 PM    Msg. 1 of 34       
Something like the modern day AA-12?

Im considering on using it on B30. It's just a stock shotgun with full auto option and small ammo.


abkarch
Joined: Mar 20, 2010


Posted: Nov 15, 2010 07:13 PM    Msg. 2 of 34       
AA12 is almost as broken as the spas 12.i think with a slower fire rate, yes.


UnevenElefant5
Joined: May 3, 2008

she/her this fag bashes back


Posted: Nov 15, 2010 08:17 PM    Msg. 3 of 34       
I think it would be ridicuously overpowered and there would be little need for other weapons.


Advancebo
Joined: Jan 14, 2008


Posted: Nov 15, 2010 08:19 PM    Msg. 4 of 34       
make it horribly inaccurate.


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Nov 15, 2010 09:07 PM    Msg. 5 of 34       
AA12 pathetic gun.


Caboose117
Joined: Jul 23, 2006

Seriously guys?


Posted: Nov 15, 2010 09:18 PM    Msg. 6 of 34       
I'd say no. You'd either have to make it entirely unrealistic, or it would be extremely unbalanced. You do realize the AA12 is capable of firing fragmentation grenade rounds 200-300 feet (possibly yards, not sure) accurately, right?

Edit: Looked it up. Atchisson Assault Shotgun/Auto Assault-12 has an effective range of about 100metres.

Most other combat shotguns have an effective range of about 40metres. Oh video games, you so silly.
Edited by Caboose117 on Nov 15, 2010 at 09:24 PM


Cocaine
Joined: Mar 2, 2009

Can't stop napping.


Posted: Nov 15, 2010 09:32 PM    Msg. 7 of 34       
Yes, full auto shotgun.
Magazine of ONE BULLET. =D


Caboose117
Joined: Jul 23, 2006

Seriously guys?


Posted: Nov 15, 2010 09:35 PM    Msg. 8 of 34       
Quote: --- Original message by: Cocaine
Yes, full auto shotgun.
Magazine of ONE BULLET. =D


Oh dear. That is quite possibly the best solution I've heard yet...


HaloIsAHorribleGane
Joined: Nov 9, 2010

I'd rather play yahtzee


Posted: Nov 15, 2010 10:00 PM    Msg. 9 of 34       
I've thought about it over and over again and I see no way to balance a full auto shotgun in a video game into something that would require skill to use

unless you made the reload completely painfully long.


Caboose117
Joined: Jul 23, 2006

Seriously guys?


Posted: Nov 15, 2010 10:23 PM    Msg. 10 of 34       
Which isn't the case with any real life auto-shotgun. Why would it be? The point in real life is for them to be as effective as possible. In most first-person shooters, the point is to make it as much fun as possible, which usually makes the effective killing tools no more effective than a BB gun.


Skyancez3o4
Joined: Apr 6, 2010

I miss CE


Posted: Nov 16, 2010 12:05 AM    Msg. 11 of 34       
Actually Im not including this in a obvious place. It's a secret weapon on B30 that I'm using it for. To get it, you would need to sacrifice 1 grenade and half of your Hp IF you do it right the first time. Also requires jumping skillz.

The Auto Shotgun will have 5 Bursts, Full auto, Very in accurate (Can only shoot at targets 4m in front of you), have very little ammo (1 loaded and 3 spare clips), kills with 1 burst at point blank range but takes 3-5 bursts to kill at 3m.


Caboose117
Joined: Jul 23, 2006

Seriously guys?


Posted: Nov 16, 2010 12:17 AM    Msg. 12 of 34       
Quote: --- Original message by: Skyancez3o4
Actually Im not including this in a obvious place. It's a secret weapon on B30 that I'm using it for. To get it, you would need to sacrifice 1 grenade and half of your Hp IF you do it right the first time. Also requires jumping skillz.

The Auto Shotgun will have 5 Bursts, Full auto, Very in accurate (Can only shoot at targets 4m in front of you), have very little ammo (1 loaded and 3 spare clips), kills with 1 burst at point blank range but takes 3-5 bursts to kill at 3m.


Well that seems semi reasonable to have lying around on a map even. You've basically created a shotgun that most FPSs would create, inaccurate at more than 15 feet. Worse than even a colonial era musket I'd even venture to say.

Don't think it's worth the price to get up there, but then again, it's also not worth risking an unbalanced map to un-nerf it.


Shade117 pro
Joined: Jul 2, 2009

Yeah bro (xfire: blue117pro) I can make cubemaps


Posted: Nov 16, 2010 03:54 AM    Msg. 13 of 34       
Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
AA12 is almost as broken as the spas 12.i think with a slower fire rate, yes.


you dont know what the AA12 is do you?

It is a fully automatic shotgun with a firerate of (from what i remember) 4 rounds per second, It has less recoil because of the automatic fire (wow, its true. It doesnt buck.) and it isnt a weapon that is used in the battlefield. It is used in Urban situations. Urban situations = buildings = cqc (close quarters combat) = not needing a very accurate weapon when firing at someone 3-5 meters away from you. And the AA12 has a maximum range of 5-7 meters (from what i remember, im not sure but its around those numbers.) The weapon doesnt break, and any type of magazine case can be used on it (i.e. Barrel, Clip, etc.). It can fire more than one type of round. Not only shotgun but rifle bullets too. Just as long as the mag fits.
Edited by Shade117 pro on Nov 16, 2010 at 03:55 AM


Muscl3r
Joined: May 22, 2010

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Posted: Nov 16, 2010 05:12 AM    Msg. 14 of 34       
When i read the title, i instantly thought boxhead 2 play


IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010

-Minor modeler-


Posted: Nov 16, 2010 06:08 AM    Msg. 15 of 34       
Quote: --- Original message by: Caboose117

I'd say no. You'd either have to make it entirely unrealistic, or it would be extremely unbalanced. You do realize the AA12 is capable of firing fragmentation grenade rounds 200-300 feet (possibly yards, not sure) accurately, right?

Edit: Looked it up. Atchisson Assault Shotgun/Auto Assault-12 has an effective range of about 100metres.

Most other combat shotguns have an effective range of about 40metres. Oh video games, you so silly.
Edited by Caboose117 on Nov 15, 2010 at 09:24 PM

Most weapons are nerfed in Halo.
Flamethrowers apparently have 40~m range but only 5 in Halo. Also, they're not used much in real life because there's way more ranged weapons.

Make it 2 shot kill.


Cocaine
Joined: Mar 2, 2009

Can't stop napping.


Posted: Nov 16, 2010 06:18 AM    Msg. 16 of 34       
Ironically, a pistol is the strongest weapon.


Caboose117
Joined: Jul 23, 2006

Seriously guys?


Posted: Nov 16, 2010 09:20 AM    Msg. 17 of 34       
Quote: --- Original message by: Shade117 pro

Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
AA12 is almost as broken as the spas 12.i think with a slower fire rate, yes.


you dont know what the AA12 is do you?

It is a fully automatic shotgun with a firerate of (from what i remember) 4 rounds per second, It has less recoil because of the automatic fire (wow, its true. It doesnt buck.) and it isnt a weapon that is used in the battlefield. It is used in Urban situations. Urban situations = buildings = cqc (close quarters combat) = not needing a very accurate weapon when firing at someone 3-5 meters away from you. And the AA12 has a maximum range of 5-7 meters (from what i remember, im not sure but its around those numbers.) The weapon doesnt break, and any type of magazine case can be used on it (i.e. Barrel, Clip, etc.). It can fire more than one type of round. Not only shotgun but rifle bullets too. Just as long as the mag fits.
Edited by Shade117 pro on Nov 16, 2010 at 03:55 AM


Lol, if you read the rest of the thread, you would've realized I looked up the effective range of the AA-12, and it's about 100 metres(in real life, not in games). Also, they are used on the battlefield, hell those things have been mounted on vehicles. Also, no gun is more accurate because it's fully automatic. The AA-12 was designed with anti-recoil measures in place, if anything. And the rate of fire is actually 300-360 rounds per minute, which surprised me.

However, he was probably talking about video games, in which case everything you said is kinda true.


Codebrain
Joined: Sep 29, 2007

/meme


Posted: Nov 16, 2010 12:37 PM    Msg. 18 of 34       
Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2.

Both have two auto shotguns (left 4 dead obviously has one) which are balanced enough for it (granted it takes out common in one hit, but thats to be expected)

*Awaits trole posts*

See if you can look into it.

Edited by Codebrain on Nov 16, 2010 at 12:38 PM


Skyancez3o4
Joined: Apr 6, 2010

I miss CE


Posted: Nov 16, 2010 08:47 PM    Msg. 19 of 34       
Quote: --- Original message by: Cocaine
Ironically, a pistol is the strongest weapon.

I nerfed the pistol. If you must know, go here:
http://www.modhalo.net/index.php?/topic/28114-b30-marines-point-of-view/
@assasincheif
It's a secret weapon. Of course Im not just gonna put that less ammo in it. If you could get it, it will have a decent amount of ammo to finish the level.

Im gonna make this shotty a bit more powerful and making it 8 bursts per shot.
It should down an elite on legendary after 4 bursts and should kill a hunter with 5 mags(into the armour) and 1 mag into the skin (if you could aim it or get lucky)


Caboose117
Joined: Jul 23, 2006

Seriously guys?


Posted: Nov 16, 2010 09:11 PM    Msg. 20 of 34       
Quote: --- Original message by: Skyancez3o4
Quote: --- Original message by: Cocaine
Ironically, a pistol is the strongest weapon.

I nerfed the pistol. If you must know, go here:
http://www.modhalo.net/index.php?/topic/28114-b30-marines-point-of-view/
@assasincheif
It's a secret weapon. Of course Im not just gonna put that less ammo in it. If you could get it, it will have a decent amount of ammo to finish the level.

Im gonna make this shotty a bit more powerful and making it 8 bursts per shot.
It should down an elite on legendary after 4 bursts and should kill a hunter with 5 mags(into the armour) and 1 mag into the skin (if you could aim it or get lucky)


That sounds like a reasonable power for an auto-shotgun.


Slayer117
Joined: Oct 3, 2008

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Posted: Nov 16, 2010 10:46 PM    Msg. 21 of 34       
just hold down your fire button on a regular shottie.


AGLion
Joined: Jun 29, 2010

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Posted: Nov 16, 2010 10:49 PM    Msg. 22 of 34       
I would say keep it at a normal shotgun power, but nerf the rate of fire to ridiculously high, and keep the magazine ammo slightly low.

So that it would be hard to save ammunition and focus on seperate targets.
Edited by AGLion on Nov 16, 2010 at 11:16 PM


IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010

-Minor modeler-


Posted: Nov 17, 2010 02:38 AM    Msg. 23 of 34       
Quote: --- Original message by: assassinchief106
Also, the pistol fires explosive rounds that detonate on impact. If you shoot at anything, you always see a small explosion, don't you?

it's not an actual explosion.


Codebrain
Joined: Sep 29, 2007

/meme


Posted: Nov 17, 2010 12:22 PM    Msg. 24 of 34       
Quote: --- Original message by: IcePhoenix
Quote: --- Original message by: assassinchief106
Also, the pistol fires explosive rounds that detonate on impact. If you shoot at anything, you always see a small explosion, don't you?

it's not an actual explosion.


Explosions don't always have to be big you know.

A firecracker popping can be considered an explosion.


inkscape13
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Posted: Nov 17, 2010 03:23 PM    Msg. 25 of 34       
Do NOT make a full auto shotgun cuz you would have some annoying 5 yr olds spraying all over with it like some terrible noobs.


anonymous_2009
Joined: Jun 13, 2009


Posted: Nov 17, 2010 03:40 PM    Msg. 26 of 34       
Quote: --- Original message by: inkscape13
Do NOT make a full auto shotgun cuz you would have some annoying 5 yr olds spraying all over with it like some terrible noobs.


Auto Shotgun in games basically = Noob + Pathetic + Spray


Karima Narstrom
Joined: Nov 12, 2010

Galloping along the hilltop rode the Narstrom....


Posted: Nov 17, 2010 03:41 PM    Msg. 27 of 34       
Make it shoot nukes!!!!


Caboose117
Joined: Jul 23, 2006

Seriously guys?


Posted: Nov 17, 2010 03:58 PM    Msg. 28 of 34       
Quote: --- Original message by: inkscape13
Do NOT make a full auto shotgun cuz you would have some annoying 5 yr olds spraying all over with it like some terrible noobs.


While that would normally be a problem, it's being used for a SP map. So unless you have annoying 5 year old marines spraying it at you, you wont have that problem. And at that point i'm going to ask you why there are five year old marines, and why are they even shooting at you?

Quote: --- Original message by: Karima Narstrom
Make it shoot nukes!!!!


Nooooooooo! Nukes don't fit in the barrel!


ally
Joined: Jun 23, 2010

Aye Ready


Posted: Nov 17, 2010 04:40 PM    Msg. 29 of 34       
Quote: --- Original message by: Cocaine
Ironically, a pistol is the strongest weapon.

the pistol owns all!

this would be a cool weapon to use but i agree it would have to have reduced accuracy


MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008

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Posted: Nov 17, 2010 04:46 PM    Msg. 30 of 34       
Make it shoot the collected testicles of enemies fallen.


Cocaine
Joined: Mar 2, 2009

Can't stop napping.


Posted: Nov 17, 2010 09:43 PM    Msg. 31 of 34       
Just to remain on the topic, I think it would be a bad idea.


MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008

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Posted: Nov 17, 2010 09:48 PM    Msg. 32 of 34       
I think it should still be a testicle gun.
Of course, the person using it would be a real dick, but we can always just give him the sack, after he sees his balls fly out of the tight narrow channel.


IcePhoenix
Joined: Sep 9, 2010

-Minor modeler-


Posted: Nov 19, 2010 07:45 PM    Msg. 33 of 34       
It can work if the auto shotgun has a lower pellet count than a standard one.


MoooseGuy
Joined: Aug 10, 2008

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Posted: Nov 19, 2010 07:53 PM    Msg. 34 of 34       
I like balls.
Juicy balls.
Balls of the fallen.
"Cumming" out.
Of the full auto awesome shotgun.
Of coolness.

 

 
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