i think the impact in the second pic (under the warthog) could look more like an explosion and less like a star. other than that, good work!

That ground map is really nasty looking, but other than that, it is definitely looking amazing :)
Edited by Bobblehob on Sep 9, 2012 at 03:40 AM

Actually, I installed CE and OS on my friends 3 year old 13" macbook, with has a 9400m with I believe 256 ram, and I was able to play all the CMT maps with some pretty decent FPS, except in areas that still require serious optimization. I had some new graphical effects off, but it's completely playable, and pretty gorgeous as well, although the screen on the macbook is amazing, looked better in some areas than my new 1080p Samsung monitor.

It looks alright but the post processing looks pretty disgusting along with the ground map, like Bobble said. Pelican looks nice though.

That pelican looks awesome and so does the warthog.

Everything else looks weird though. And way too much bloom. :/

The rocks look cool, but look a bit too papery to me.

what post-process settings do you use Masterz? motion/bloom amount.
Mine looks like I dont use OS, i can only see the normal maps clearly.

Awesome.

Pelican looks hot, but the bloom is disgusting. I'd like to see a few screens without any bloom.

I wonder if 343 can do the same with same tools we have.

343 Have the source, they can do so much more than we can.
Although, what we've managed so far is rather good, considering what we where given.

Don't forget extra tools made by other people, for example Kornman and OS.
Edited by Caboose 14 on Sep 9, 2012 at 01:37 PM

You guys need a better forerunner structure modeling. Also better ground and structure textures. I think the ground and cliff textures don't really go, and the forerunner structure texture is way to grimy and dirty. I know it's been a very long time since someone has been there, but i just think it would look better cleaner. And another thing, the grass on the ground is way darker then the green edges of the cliff, making the cliff and everything else not darker stick out. Unless that's a good thing.
Edited by P3 on Sep 9, 2012 at 08:35 PM

looks awesome, nice to see the new hog in-game

But really, everything looks new and Halo reach/cea style (Cea, as in with the new models and stuff. Not with the old Halo 1 models.) ..... and then there is the forerunner structures.... You guys are still making them look like Halo 1 style architecture. Unless that's what you guys are aiming for. I just think that it needs to have the reach/cea style also.

agreed, the structures seem lacking, both in geometry and texture. instead of using cover-all texture patterns, could you make custom ones for each structure?

Our forerunner structures for B30 Evolved are far superior to what you see here. Since these areas are extensions of the regular level, we want them to visually fit with the rest of the map, hence the lower quality BSPs and more basic texturing. If you like fancy forerunner stuff, you will be mightily impressed by B30 Evolved.

Ok, great! :) So these seen in the pictures will be subject to change? Or are you saying that they will be left as they are?

It's always subject to change.

Does anyone have any complaints about the bloom other than the sky and water? Because those aren't problems with the bloom, those are problems with the elements themselves (placeholder water shader, and all white background on the sky)

The bloom settings are fairly easy to set on a per level basis, i have two seperate bloom configurations for indoor maps and outdoor maps, setting the max bloom color down for outdoor maps fixes the majority of sky's becoming blinding.

The ground texture is pretty bad. Or at least the detail map that is being used, it seems like it may be due to a normal map or something with it.

I HIGHLY doubt that is final. Just a quick one stuck on to speed up compiling whilst they tested other assets?

You would hope so, but then again, they were showing off pictures. You would assume that most of the stuff in those pictures are at least somewhat "polished".

I'm guessing it's to make people have something to talk about in this thread while we wait for more.

OH. I thought that was B30 Evolved! Really nice work you guys have going here.

Oh oops. Should have mentioned that was a new A30 area. It's one of the ones posted in the B-Team update, just now with revised scenery and shaders.

George Peppard,Dirk Benedict, Dwight Schultz, and Mr. T.
Edited by Echo77 on Sep 12, 2012 at 11:24 PM

CMT irl

He loves it when a plan comes together.

He honostly looks more like the guy above the one with the cigar. Haha

It's not so much a clear, solid bold-line division in personnel as it is just two separate projects; nearly all visual assets (models, textures, particles, etc.) are shared between both SPv3 and the Evolved project, so relevant team members aren't really "on" one half-team and "off" the other, and while BSP modelers do prioritize what they're working on they can and have hopped between projects depending on which one needs more attention.

The difference is mostly in encounter and weapon design. There's still considerable parity between the two; both projects are using the same weapons and units which all do the same general thing, but with specific elements (weapon balance, enemy composition, etc.) diverging as such:

-Building off existing campaign maps allows Masterz the freedom to inject lots of experimental fun, preserving the variety and broad weapon roles characteristic of earlier SPvX projects, so he has pretty much complete reign over that aspect for the B-Team's map output.

-TSC:E's gameplay sandbox is more of an extension of the trimmed and polished approach taken in February's a50 release, since the from-scratch rebuild is requiring a lot more time and effort in and of itself; I'm handling the weapon balance and broad-scale design for this one, while sharing encounter design with teh lag (who really does most of the work on that end).

E: well I guess at this precise moment in time the TSC:E staff is more or less:



And then Masterz is roughly equivalent to Doc Brown with our testers taking the place of Marty McFly
Edited by Ifafudafi on Sep 13, 2012 at 07:35 PM

what about me ;C

you're with the asset people whose stuff goes to both teams !!

best described as:



well I guess it's not completely accurate, see I don't have a six-pack

No, I'm fairly certain that you do :3

Speaking of which, do you have a particle effect video possibly, maybe, hopefully, please?

So not much to show or talk about, but a few things that have been going on.

1. Lots of OS development for things such as in game sky and lightmap switching (used in A10 for flickering lights and atmospheric smoke and a cool encounter involving cryotubes), script loaded UI elements (for more robust loadout systems), more tagslots and scriptspace, and a few MP addons which Firescythe and Korn will want to talk about on their own. Unfortunately while everything is being merged, it means some development on A30 and A10 had to stop, B30: Evolved is still progressing nicely.

2. It's been decided that B40 and C40 will be co-developed together as the last 2 maps for SPV3, meaning that we will be moving onto the Flood as soon as the current batch of maps are done.

3. This goes with 1, but it's important enough to get its own point, there will be a line you can add to the end of your HCE.exe, which will disable anything in OS that will impact your FPS.
Edited by Masters1337 on Sep 19, 2012 at 04:07 PM

As for the flood, are you going to make them in the style of (relatively clean) bodily mutation of H3, or more towards the gory, torn-up bodies of HCEA?