Appreciate you taking the time to respond to my thoughts

However, I was under the illusion we were re-doing extinction entirely with a new BSP, hence some of them may seem out of place. I'll probably utilize my concept for another map down the road.

Spent an hour or two on the hangar...well, not on the hangar, more like figuring out the enigma that is 3DS MAX (for newbies like me, anyway) The Boolean I wanted to attempt with a cylinder halve didn't work out too well, so I deleted the junk at the prow of an H2 Carrier and extruded the polies inward. Only time will tell if I'll be able to detail this so it doesn't look like crap >_>

e: I do believe your 'Krakken' and my 'Ghast' are the same ship. I only coined it that to keep in line with Covie naming conventions.
Edited by Tiel on Apr 25, 2012 at 05:50 PM

Well, we decided that, after talking to FMT Masterchief for the first time since he offered his services, he will not be part of the project. We deduced he would cause many unneeded problems for us down the road. If anyone would like to do opensauce shadering, send me a PM.
Edited by JimDaRulah on Apr 25, 2012 at 06:33 PM

...Can't say I didn't see that coming.

All I ask, is better control of the vehicles. Driving the pelican is horrid...

Driving the pelican IS AWESOME!

All I wish for for the flight of that darn, beautiful yet cursed thing is that you make it faster. Then, I will NEVER be caught.

And a bit better handling.

Speed up the LS as well.

I would suggest using seraphs as the equivalent to longwords, giving them high rate of fire plasma turret such as the shade, possibly using the same 3 bolt firing. Add a secondary fire that works like a bomber firing a volley of missiles which arc downwards.
This gives it a powerful primary weapon if aimed well, and a devastating bombing run.

The Seraph simply does not match up to the longsword in any way shape or form. Not to mention we've figured out the model itself is broken, and will never allow any form of projectile to NOT fire crisscross. For a covenant longsword equivalent, we've turned to a vehicle dubbed the 'Krakken'. Echo plans to arm it with a primary of double red plasma bolt cannons and a secondary of a carpet bomb of revenant-sized plasma mortars. The longsword will also undergo some armament changes, for one, we're pretty sure that the missiles will be changed to .50 caliber rounds for a primary, and the secondary will be a carpet bombing with explosions around the size of a tank round.
Edited by JimDaRulah on Apr 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM

y halo thar.

I'm not blaming you. I'm just saying it's your fault that your opinion was there for me to be provoked by. ;)

Go for the gold!

thats like if the nazis said we dont hate you for what you i've done,we hate you because you did nothing....
Edited by LMT Heretic on Apr 26, 2012 at 08:35 PM

But he has got a point. Jaz probably thought abkarch had more knowledge about the work going on, and so followed his. It was an honest mistake.

Please make this a quote pyramid.

Now now, guys. It's in the past now, let's not play the blame game it's nobody's fault.

Are you kidding? This is obviously Kane's fault.

How's that hangar coming, Tiel? ;)

But I LIEKZ TEH BLAME GAME!! WAAAH!

We're not really playing the blame game, we're just hypothesizing whether or not Abkarch was the catalyst for Jaz's following his point of view and failing. It was mistake for both parties.

We need a vehicle animator, anyone interested?

You should add smaller hangers that only have room for pelicans. And on the side of the PoA, add hangers with AA guns the player can enter.

Remember the size of the POA, 1337. The big hanger, and three smaller hangars should be all. Maybe even two smaller hangers- I don't think it'd be dotted with hangers in real life. Y'know, dotted with a LOT.

The aa guns should be on the ships hull but controlled from inside the shop, like any real ship would

Could anyone rip the Rhino from Halo Wars? I have a feeling it'd be a great replacement for the Scorpion on a map this size....

http://www.halopedian.com/images/7/70/HaloWars-M145D-Rhino-transparent.png

I think the scorpion still has a lot to offer- a revamped gun and turret would be able to deal any air vehicles if the driver has skill, just like the wraith(I still think you should make it so the wraith has a laser projectile like the mythos- except it doesn't explode as much. It'd be as strong as, say, the scorpion on extinction.)

Edited by llort on Apr 30, 2012 at 04:19 AM

The problem you're having with the CrissCross isn't a model issue, it's a hard coded thing. All projectiles will initially (with all error values 0) move towards the crosshairs.
Also a single seraph isn't equal to a LS you're right, but 2 or 3 would prove a difficult battle. Giving the Covenant 2 seraphs per longsword will offset this.
Also the Krakken sounds pretty powerful, i look forward to seeing it.

Terribly. Laptop broke, nearly got arrested...won't bore with details but I don't think I'll be able to do work for some time seeing as I'm typing this up on a library computer.

HEY! :(

i hope you make:
- good mapping
- a bsp with good quality
- don't use a gazillion of polygons like the other extinction WIP

hope this works out gl

Not cool man.

I hate you.

Bungie LLC, that's just not cool. Don't act like an ass.

Actually, bungie's joke failed because we started this revamp LOOOOONG before he started his.

Therefore, TOO LATE BUNGIE.

**Dancing trololol man**

if u guys are all so keen to do an extinction remake, why dont you all geet together and help gonzo, he's put so much work into his map and his bridge looks awesome

this is not gonna go anywhere >.>

Requiem is not Extinction. It's merely as large/larger than Extinction and employs similar mechanics. As far as I know, it's not the same design and it's an entirely new map.

Hey guys, I'm back, sorry I haven't been around, the month of may has been relatively chaotic in terms of my schoolwork and some things have been going down on my minecraft server so I've had to step back for a bit, I just finished the last of my finals and I can't wait to continue with this project.

For your convenience, I've written up a big post containing my thoughts on huge-map game play here: http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=33513&start=1018

For stuff not mentioned there, some other thoughts on ideas brought up in this thread: Seraphs can bring down Longswords, the trick is to sneak up on them and loosen them up with the primary fire before using the secondary when you're close enough for them both to hit. It can be tricky, but it's not impossible.
Also, please don't make vehicles with the intent of them only being useful in large numbers, because I find that teamwork in CE is pretty much nonexistent.
As well, (And I'm sure this is going to be unpopular) both the Scarab and the Mythos need some kind of buff to deal with close-range attackers (And by close-range I mean basically anything within a kilometer of the vehicle or behind it).
I also hear some mention of new ground vehicles; I think it could be a good idea to make something that's fast and small or otherwise stealthy, for sneaky flag capturing. Perhaps it could have some kind of cloaking ability like the Wraith on Downflow, or the Tachikoma on Hugeass. I personally think that the Bulldog might be a good candidate for this for the human vehicle, and maybe a Ghost for the Covenant analogue.