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abkarch
Joined: Mar 20, 2010


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:09 PM    Msg. 71 of 120       
Wait, is jim here actually doing anything himself, or is he calling himself project manager and bossing people around?

not being rude or anything, but to get a good map done the leader usually has to be able to do something himself


Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010

[Insert sarcastic comment here]


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:11 PM    Msg. 72 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
Wait, is jim here actually doing anything himself, or is he calling himself project manager and bossing people around?

not being rude or anything, but to get a good map done the leader usually has to be able to do something himself


He's uh... supervising?

That's important because ummm.... people might start sleeping on the job?


abkarch
Joined: Mar 20, 2010


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:13 PM    Msg. 73 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz
Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
Wait, is jim here actually doing anything himself, or is he calling himself project manager and bossing people around?

not being rude or anything, but to get a good map done the leader usually has to be able to do something himself


He's uh... supervising?

That's important because ummm.... people might start sleeping on the job?

Wouldnt want to miss that...deadline?


JimDaRulah
Joined: Mar 26, 2012

It's been a while


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:14 PM    Msg. 74 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
Wait, is jim here actually doing anything himself, or is he calling himself project manager and bossing people around?

not being rude or anything, but to get a good map done the leader usually has to be able to do something himself


I'm keeping everyone on task, finding out who wants to do what, talking to others who want to join the team, organizing team meetings on xfire, providing input, and making sure everyone is getting along and staying on task. It's harder than you think.


Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010

[Insert sarcastic comment here]


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:15 PM    Msg. 75 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: JimDaRulah
Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
Wait, is jim here actually doing anything himself, or is he calling himself project manager and bossing people around?

not being rude or anything, but to get a good map done the leader usually has to be able to do something himself


I'm keeping everyone on task, finding out who wants to do what, talking to others who want to join the team, organizing team meetings on xfire, providing input, and making sure everyone is getting along and staying on task. It's harder than you think.


So... what takes me an hour or two if everybody's online?


abkarch
Joined: Mar 20, 2010


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:15 PM    Msg. 76 of 120       
not really, people have lives and they are doing this because they want to, they dont need or want people bossing them around.

its really not hard.


JimDaRulah
Joined: Mar 26, 2012

It's been a while


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:17 PM    Msg. 77 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz
Quote: --- Original message by: JimDaRulah
Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
Wait, is jim here actually doing anything himself, or is he calling himself project manager and bossing people around?

not being rude or anything, but to get a good map done the leader usually has to be able to do something himself


I'm keeping everyone on task, finding out who wants to do what, talking to others who want to join the team, organizing team meetings on xfire, providing input, and making sure everyone is getting along and staying on task. It's harder than you think.


So... what takes me an hour or two if everybody's online?


Well, this system has been working well so far. Everyone is doing what needs to be done and we're making progress. Think whatever you want, but I'm doing my part to keep this project from falling apart.

Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
not really, people have lives and they are doing this because they want to, they dont need or want people bossing them around.

its really not hard.


I know people are doing this because they want to, I'm making sure they know their role in the map and are doing their part of the contribution. The team has been amazing so far, and this map would be absolutely nothing without them. I don't intend to take any credit for this map when it's done, I only want to see it become a reality.
Edited by JimDaRulah on Apr 25, 2012 at 01:20 PM


abkarch
Joined: Mar 20, 2010


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:18 PM    Msg. 78 of 120       
it might fall apart faster if you make it a job instead of keeping it a hobby for people


JimDaRulah
Joined: Mar 26, 2012

It's been a while


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:20 PM    Msg. 79 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
it might fall apart faster if you make it a job instead of keeping it a hobby for people


I haven't been making it a job for people. Everyone is working at their own pace and that is absolutely fine.


abkarch
Joined: Mar 20, 2010


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:21 PM    Msg. 80 of 120       
Either way you look at it, you do not have much of a job here...just saying...


Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010

[Insert sarcastic comment here]


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:23 PM    Msg. 81 of 120       
Plus he clearly forgot to get a decent whip. -.-


JimDaRulah
Joined: Mar 26, 2012

It's been a while


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:24 PM    Msg. 82 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
Either way you look at it, you do not have much of a job here...just saying...


Well, so far the team has completed more than anyone who's attempted this in the past has. So I think our current situation is working out well.
Edited by JimDaRulah on Apr 25, 2012 at 01:25 PM


Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010

[Insert sarcastic comment here]


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:27 PM    Msg. 83 of 120       
Well, can I join the team then please?

I'll go ahead and do what I'm meant to do. Write plans, set up timetables, sort out meetings, beta-test, routinely cane people, swear about random mistakes, and uh... supervise?


JimDaRulah
Joined: Mar 26, 2012

It's been a while


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:28 PM    Msg. 84 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz
Well, can I join the team then please?

I'll go ahead and do what I'm meant to do. Write plans, set up timetables, sort out meetings, beta-test, routinely cane people, swear about random mistakes, and uh... supervise?


If you actually want to, sure. Or was that sarcasm?

Edit: By the way, I haven't been swearing at people or anything of the sort, the team has done wonderful work.
Edited by JimDaRulah on Apr 25, 2012 at 01:29 PM


Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010

[Insert sarcastic comment here]


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:39 PM    Msg. 85 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: JimDaRulah

Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz
Well, can I join the team then please?

I'll go ahead and do what I'm meant to do. Write plans, set up timetables, sort out meetings, beta-test, routinely cane people, swear about random mistakes, and uh... supervise?


If you actually want to, sure. Or was that sarcasm?

Edit: By the way, I haven't been swearing at people or anything of the sort, the team has done wonderful work.
Edited by JimDaRulah on Apr 25, 2012 at 01:29 PM


I was sarcastically pointing out what supervising actually consists of. It's actually pretty easy, but then again, I've been doing it for about 2 years. I ran a clan with over 60 members and it only actually took me about 10 minutes a day to deal with everything, and starting the clan up only took about an hour. And that's including creating logos, which you theoretically shouldn't need to do. ;)
Nowadays, after that clan's been closed and I now run a few other clans, probably making up about double the same amount of members, it takes me about 2 minutes a day to deal with everything, and starting RPT up only took about 2 hours, and most of that work was pointless out of boredom.

And I might maybe actually do it at some point if you need, but for now, take that proposal as sarcasm. ;)

E:
Oh and meetings aren't hard at all if you organise them properly. My meetings which overview tons of changes only take about 10 minutes. And by tons of changes, I mean about 2 months worth of changes. I barely ever have meetings. :P



Edited by Jaz on Apr 25, 2012 at 01:41 PM


JimDaRulah
Joined: Mar 26, 2012

It's been a while


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:54 PM    Msg. 86 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz

Quote: --- Original message by: JimDaRulah

Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz
Well, can I join the team then please?

I'll go ahead and do what I'm meant to do. Write plans, set up timetables, sort out meetings, beta-test, routinely cane people, swear about random mistakes, and uh... supervise?


If you actually want to, sure. Or was that sarcasm?

Edit: By the way, I haven't been swearing at people or anything of the sort, the team has done wonderful work.
Edited by JimDaRulah on Apr 25, 2012 at 01:29 PM


I was sarcastically pointing out what supervising actually consists of. It's actually pretty easy, but then again, I've been doing it for about 2 years. I ran a clan with over 60 members and it only actually took me about 10 minutes a day to deal with everything, and starting the clan up only took about an hour. And that's including creating logos, which you theoretically shouldn't need to do. ;)
Nowadays, after that clan's been closed and I now run a few other clans, probably making up about double the same amount of members, it takes me about 2 minutes a day to deal with everything, and starting RPT up only took about 2 hours, and most of that work was pointless out of boredom.

And I might maybe actually do it at some point if you need, but for now, take that proposal as sarcasm. ;)

E:
Oh and meetings aren't hard at all if you organise them properly. My meetings which overview tons of changes only take about 10 minutes. And by tons of changes, I mean about 2 months worth of changes. I barely ever have meetings. :P



Edited by Jaz on Apr 25, 2012 at 01:41 PM


Well, I know what you mean, I, too run an online community of nearly 100 members (http://www.Vanilla-Craft.com) for my minecraft server, and it can be very easy to run things most of the time. For this project I'm mainly here to see how things are doing and provide suggestions, the real heroes of this project are the guys making everything we need to make this map a reality. I just thought that maybe my leadership skills learned from running a large community might come in handy when doing this project.


Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010

[Insert sarcastic comment here]


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 01:56 PM    Msg. 87 of 120       
Ah, well, I guess I see what you mean then. A little supervision guidance can be helpful. Sorry, abkarch was provoking me into thinking you're just literally demanding things, which I've seen a lot of people do. -.-


JimDaRulah
Joined: Mar 26, 2012

It's been a while


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 02:05 PM    Msg. 88 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: Jaz
Ah, well, I guess I see what you mean then. A little supervision guidance can be helpful. Sorry, abkarch was provoking me into thinking you're just literally demanding things, which I've seen a lot of people do. -.-


Nah dude, we're just a bunch of guys united under the same goal: Give an old favorite map a fresh coat of paint.
Edited by JimDaRulah on Apr 25, 2012 at 02:06 PM


LMT Heretic
Joined: Feb 18, 2010

There are mysteries, that should remain hidden...


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 04:48 PM    Msg. 89 of 120       
yes jim is a nice leader as i've seen and he is good with ideas, that i have good ideas but often uncapable of making them in ce and he has give me ideas that i can handle like forerunner structure i built for extinction


abkarch
Joined: Mar 20, 2010


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 05:13 PM    Msg. 90 of 120       
ok jaz, just throw blame onto me.

ive just been saying my opinion, but if people think that he is doing a great job, then its not my problem


JimDaRulah
Joined: Mar 26, 2012

It's been a while


Posted: Apr 25, 2012 06:01 PM    Msg. 91 of 120       
Well, we decided that, after talking to FMT Masterchief for the first time since he offered his services, he will not be part of the project. We deduced he would cause many unneeded problems for us down the road. If anyone would like to do opensauce shadering, send me a PM.
Edited by JimDaRulah on Apr 25, 2012 at 06:33 PM


Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010

Former biped rigger & FP animator


Posted: Apr 26, 2012 03:16 AM    Msg. 92 of 120       
...Can't say I didn't see that coming.

All I ask, is better control of the vehicles. Driving the pelican is horrid...


LegionofShadows
Joined: Jul 10, 2011

The Red Pill is strong in this one.


Posted: Apr 26, 2012 03:27 AM    Msg. 93 of 120       
Driving the pelican IS AWESOME!

All I wish for for the flight of that darn, beautiful yet cursed thing is that you make it faster. Then, I will NEVER be caught.

And a bit better handling.

Speed up the LS as well.


olly12345
Joined: Jul 30, 2008


Posted: Apr 26, 2012 08:01 AM    Msg. 94 of 120       
I would suggest using seraphs as the equivalent to longwords, giving them high rate of fire plasma turret such as the shade, possibly using the same 3 bolt firing. Add a secondary fire that works like a bomber firing a volley of missiles which arc downwards.
This gives it a powerful primary weapon if aimed well, and a devastating bombing run.


JimDaRulah
Joined: Mar 26, 2012

It's been a while


Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:57 PM    Msg. 95 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: olly12345
I would suggest using seraphs as the equivalent to longwords, giving them high rate of fire plasma turret such as the shade, possibly using the same 3 bolt firing. Add a secondary fire that works like a bomber firing a volley of missiles which arc downwards.
This gives it a powerful primary weapon if aimed well, and a devastating bombing run.


The Seraph simply does not match up to the longsword in any way shape or form. Not to mention we've figured out the model itself is broken, and will never allow any form of projectile to NOT fire crisscross. For a covenant longsword equivalent, we've turned to a vehicle dubbed the 'Krakken'. Echo plans to arm it with a primary of double red plasma bolt cannons and a secondary of a carpet bomb of revenant-sized plasma mortars. The longsword will also undergo some armament changes, for one, we're pretty sure that the missiles will be changed to .50 caliber rounds for a primary, and the secondary will be a carpet bombing with explosions around the size of a tank round.
Edited by JimDaRulah on Apr 26, 2012 at 12:58 PM


Jaz
Joined: Mar 21, 2010

[Insert sarcastic comment here]


Posted: Apr 26, 2012 01:12 PM    Msg. 96 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
ok jaz, just throw blame onto me.

ive just been saying my opinion, but if people think that he is doing a great job, then its not my problem


I'm not blaming you. I'm just saying it's your fault that your opinion was there for me to be provoked by. ;)


LMT Heretic
Joined: Feb 18, 2010

There are mysteries, that should remain hidden...


Posted: Apr 26, 2012 08:35 PM    Msg. 97 of 120       
Quote: Quote: --- Original message by: jaz
Quote: Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
ok jaz, just throw blame onto me.

ive just been saying my opinion, but if people think that he is doing a great job, then its not my problem


I'm not blaming you. I'm just saying it's your fault that your opinion was there for me to be provoked by. ;)

thats like if the nazis said we dont hate you for what you i've done,we hate you because you did nothing....
Edited by LMT Heretic on Apr 26, 2012 at 08:35 PM


LegionofShadows
Joined: Jul 10, 2011

The Red Pill is strong in this one.


Posted: Apr 27, 2012 03:27 AM    Msg. 98 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: LMT Heretic

Quote: Quote: --- Original message by: jaz
Quote: Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
ok jaz, just throw blame onto me.

ive just been saying my opinion, but if people think that he is doing a great job, then its not my problem


I'm not blaming you. I'm just saying it's your fault that your opinion was there for me to be provoked by. ;)

thats like if the nazis said we dont hate you for what you i've done,we hate you because you did nothing....
Edited by LMT Heretic on Apr 26, 2012 at 08:35 PM


But he has got a point. Jaz probably thought abkarch had more knowledge about the work going on, and so followed his. It was an honest mistake.

Please make this a quote pyramid.


JimDaRulah
Joined: Mar 26, 2012

It's been a while


Posted: Apr 27, 2012 08:33 PM    Msg. 99 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: LegionofShadows
Quote: --- Original message by: LMT Heretic

Quote: Quote: --- Original message by: jaz
Quote: Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
ok jaz, just throw blame onto me.

ive just been saying my opinion, but if people think that he is doing a great job, then its not my problem


I'm not blaming you. I'm just saying it's your fault that your opinion was there for me to be provoked by. ;)

thats like if the nazis said we dont hate you for what you i've done,we hate you because you did nothing....
Edited by LMT Heretic on Apr 26, 2012 at 08:35 PM


But he has got a point. Jaz probably thought abkarch had more knowledge about the work going on, and so followed his. It was an honest mistake.

Please make this a quote pyramid.


Now now, guys. It's in the past now, let's not play the blame game it's nobody's fault.


JimDaRulah
Joined: Mar 26, 2012

It's been a while


Posted: Apr 27, 2012 11:34 PM    Msg. 100 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: Tiel
Are you kidding? This is obviously Kane's fault.

http://images.wikia.com/cnc/images/a/a3/CNCTW_Kane.png


How's that hangar coming, Tiel? ;)


LegionofShadows
Joined: Jul 10, 2011

The Red Pill is strong in this one.


Posted: Apr 28, 2012 03:29 AM    Msg. 101 of 120       
Quote: --- Original message by: JimDaRulah
Quote: --- Original message by: LegionofShadows
Quote: --- Original message by: LMT Heretic

Quote: Quote: --- Original message by: jaz
Quote: Quote: --- Original message by: abkarch
ok jaz, just throw blame onto me.

ive just been saying my opinion, but if people think that he is doing a great job, then its not my problem


I'm not blaming you. I'm just saying it's your fault that your opinion was there for me to be provoked by. ;)

thats like if the nazis said we dont hate you for what you i've done,we hate you because you did nothing....
Edited by LMT Heretic on Apr 26, 2012 at 08:35 PM


But he has got a point. Jaz probably thought abkarch had more knowledge about the work going on, and so followed his. It was an honest mistake.

Please make this a quote pyramid.


Now now, guys. It's in the past now, let's not play the blame game it's nobody's fault.


But I LIEKZ TEH BLAME GAME!! WAAAH!

We're not really playing the blame game, we're just hypothesizing whether or not Abkarch was the catalyst for Jaz's following his point of view and failing. It was mistake for both parties.


JimDaRulah
Joined: Mar 26, 2012

It's been a while


Posted: Apr 28, 2012 07:50 PM    Msg. 102 of 120       
We need a vehicle animator, anyone interested?


Sergeant 1337
Joined: May 1, 2010

Do you even lift?


Posted: Apr 28, 2012 09:23 PM    Msg. 103 of 120       
You should add smaller hangers that only have room for pelicans. And on the side of the PoA, add hangers with AA guns the player can enter.


LegionofShadows
Joined: Jul 10, 2011

The Red Pill is strong in this one.


Posted: Apr 29, 2012 01:30 AM    Msg. 104 of 120       
Remember the size of the POA, 1337. The big hanger, and three smaller hangars should be all. Maybe even two smaller hangers- I don't think it'd be dotted with hangers in real life. Y'know, dotted with a LOT.


Muscl3r
Joined: May 22, 2010

dont pray 4 easy lives...pray to be STRONGER MEN


Posted: Apr 29, 2012 04:05 AM    Msg. 105 of 120       
The aa guns should be on the ships hull but controlled from inside the shop, like any real ship would

 
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