People can rip and make there own stuff at the same time... :O

this

in fact, a lot of the people who make good tags were rippers originally

plus what if people don't wanna make custom content, i think u anti rippers are forgetting that little part of the equation

like me, I have absolutely 0 desire to learn how to animate or model, but I love to mod. (I do make sounds and bitmaps and I script, but I dont consider any of that custom)

This is just fun and games, kids, don't act like it means anything, your content doesn't even belong to you. It belongs to microsoft
Edited by Delicon20 on Apr 26, 2012 at 04:21 PM

90% of rippers don't learn how.

And they can learn how to make custom TAGS yeah, but what use are tags without the actual model and textures ect...

i dont like rippers to be honest, i remember when a group of ppl ripped from one of my maps (my maps name is war fields and yeah it was pr protected) the group was clan eaters or something like that, they modded the map and tried to take the credit for the whole map as theirs, but then i told dennis and he moved the mod to the mod maps section, i never took anything from a protected map And i never will, however theres nothng i can do about those rippers, unless i find out how was the map Revelations protected it seems to be the best as far as i ve seen, i even used some 'tools' to see how good that maps protection was and not even those programs that are used to bypass protection were able to open it, so yeah that MY opinion, oh and if someone here actually knows how to protect maps like revelations PM me plz :3

It's not "protection" so much as obfuscation, if you don't people to use your tags or maps than the only safe way is to not release them.

And that saying is just pointless, stupid and arrogant.

It's not pointless or stupid, because he's right. Anything you put on the internet can be modified by others.

That is true.
Don't release anything that you want to keep to yourself.A ripper can't rip what's not there.

Even with map protection.a person who wants something WILL find a way to get it,with or without permission.

If no one truly cared about their content getting unprotected, ripped, leaked,
overused or spammed, then there would be no protected maps.

Some may not care at all and some people will care a lot cause its their
time, sweat and soul that went into making something awesome or private.

Our of respect for that, protection is a great tool. And yes people will find a way around
as I have, and others can too. But sweeping protection under a rug would bring up
endless Variant maps with maybe great ripped content, but no quality of play or design.

Why don't we just improve the protection? Renaming just doesn't work as effectively anymore.

Because there is no point.
I am happy whenever the things that i choose to be free and in the wild are used by someone else.

Guess that's why he's a Dumb AI.

jokes



Yeah there is no point in protection

Edited by XlzQwerty1 on Apr 26, 2012 at 09:33 PM

Very funny,guys. You guys are just hilarious!

obviously,it was sarcastic

I get what you guys are saying but seriously,XlzQwerty,no need to insult my intelligence.

Edited by Dumb AI on Apr 26, 2012 at 11:24 PM

ANON2009 2012!!!!

But your name is an oxymoron :(

Not really, if you put anything on the internet, unless it's copyrighted, you pretty much wave your right to call it your own, or keep it out of other people's hands.

No use in re-inventing the wheel, just let it rip.
Just say thank you, when you do.

Because it's a sign of respect. If you don't give a crap about how the person took their time in life to make something that you used to make your map, it shows you're not a decent person. Hence making people hate you. See what I'm getting at?

Probably some immature 10 year old who doesn't know proper manners and proper grammar.

You can't use Bungie's tags then

Bullox, if anything using ripped tags is a compliment to the original creator.
Using ripped tags in a non-profit engine really harms nobody + it saves time...it does not make you a bad person.

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Avé Wim.

but ripping is fun :( (from other games)

and on the contrary to the point of not learning anything, porting game assets isnt just taking a ripped model and slapping it ingame with textures, i actually learned a lot about 3ds max porting shiz.

learned rigging sole-ly from ripping old as dirt h2 models, learned a ton about common texture formats, channels, specular and how the textures work. i even created a few textures for some content i couldnt rip (stupid eye membrane >_<). even learned unwrapping messing with h2 stuff (tons of uv errors on scenery models). and i really got into materials and shaders when i started messing with mass effect assets.

sure i cant model (dont even care to try -_-), but even in such an old engine. just having crap in a different game to do.... whatever is fun imo.

the ripping process (not halo 3) even helped me learn more about command line, iso's, hex, etc. that might not seem like much to some of you guys but i DID learn things.

learned a ton about halo, and tagging in general by ripping cmt stuff, the guys have been around since the golden days of halo ce, its a given they know what they are doing.

DaniloC ripped Ghost from MW2 (obviously) and then Sphinxbio just asked him for the biped...

Isn't Sphinxbio a ripper?

Good idea!

*Lets it rip*

Ah... much better.

(Sorry, had to do it)

yeah, he's kinda the first person that comes to mind when I hear the word ripper :P

You might say he's the representative of all rippers, or the king of the rippers



Basically, if they had a medal for ripping, he'd get gold

Silver is Altheros.

I would be tin.Or garbage.

Really? When I hear the word ripper, I think Altheros pretty much instantly. Then again, I don't hold grudges, and Altheros is the only major ripper still active...

True, but nah, Sphinxbio is still probably the king of the rippers in history of ripping.
And Altheros is Shinxbio's chosen one.

Oh heck no.

Like Maniac said... when someone uses my stuff, it makes me happy. I honestly dont care if they credit me or not either, I wont be that stuck up about it. Its nice enough to know that someone likes your stuff either way and its interesting to see what they do with it. Its also nice for younger modders to rip content in case if their looking how to do a certain thing with a tag or learn from it.

...like ripping more stuff for bloodgulch?

Or check out it's properties in HEK and try to understand what each property does based on how the tag itself works in-game visually.

Tbh, if it weren't for rippers, I would have no knowledge AT ALL about Halo modding. Though I've barely really learned yet, more in-depth studying of ripped tags would help a lot. ;)