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corrupt
Joined: Dec 5, 2011


Posted: May 13, 2015 09:22 PM    Msg. 1 of 18       
Not sure if this has done before, but I didn't find it through search. I was wondering if someone could make a quick mod to Danger Canyon to prevent wallhopping?

I was thinking about attempting this myself, but I'm having a lot of trouble getting the software to work properly/not crash. And since I'd also need to learn it, I figured someone else could do this much more easily and quickly.

If it's made, I'll try to get it integrated into the scrimming haloce community as a replacement for DC. It would take a big headache out of the game!

Let me know your thoughts!


BlitzOfSBB
Joined: Sep 29, 2013


Posted: May 13, 2015 09:28 PM    Msg. 2 of 18       
Most people, including myself really don't mind wallhopping in scrims. If it bothers you, why not just agree with the other team to not do it? You already have a bunch of agreements probably, no pups, heavies etc. One more shouldn't be an issue.


corrupt
Joined: Dec 5, 2011


Posted: May 14, 2015 08:20 PM    Msg. 3 of 18       
Hey Blitz, thanks for your reply.

I have to disagree with you, the majority of the competitive community does mind wallhopping, and the general understanding is that its not allowed. On big ctf maps, there are generally no agreements. For indoor ctf maps, no heavies, and for TS, no pups/heavies.

The problem is that it is difficult to enforce/know when its happening, and even if specified, some players will dishonor the agreement anyways, esp towards the end of a game if they are losing. It also takes away from legitimate sneak caps, where players will dismiss it as a wallhop and think the other team is cheating.


BKTiel
Joined: Mar 18, 2014

strong independent bird needs no cage


Posted: May 14, 2015 08:44 PM    Msg. 4 of 18       
what the hell is a wallhop


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: May 14, 2015 08:51 PM    Msg. 5 of 18       
Quote: --- Original message by: BKTiel
what the hell is a wallhop

On Danger Canyon, the two bases are seperated by a relatively thin canyon wall. If friendly fire is disabled and an infantryman stands against said wall, a teammate in a vehicle can ram him through the barrier, sending him from one base to the other over the course of a couple of seconds.


BKTiel
Joined: Mar 18, 2014

strong independent bird needs no cage


Posted: May 14, 2015 08:53 PM    Msg. 6 of 18       
oh.

sorry I don't play halo


Kinnet
Joined: Dec 27, 2013

FeelsGoodMan


Posted: May 14, 2015 09:16 PM    Msg. 7 of 18       
Keep calm and play bigass


gruntfromhalo
Joined: Nov 21, 2007

actual loli


Posted: May 15, 2015 01:24 AM    Msg. 8 of 18       
Why the hell would you want that, wallhopping is the only reason I play it.


altis94
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

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Posted: May 15, 2015 05:35 AM    Msg. 9 of 18       
I'm sure someone could just make a sapp event that kicks or teleports players who do that.


BlitzOfSBB
Joined: Sep 29, 2013


Posted: May 15, 2015 10:05 AM    Msg. 10 of 18       
Quote: --- Original message by: altis94
I'm sure someone could just make a sapp event that kicks or teleports players who do that.


This is probably your solution right here, Corrupt. Great idea Altis.


corrupt
Joined: Dec 5, 2011


Posted: May 16, 2015 01:04 AM    Msg. 11 of 18       
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
Quote: --- Original message by: BKTiel
what the hell is a wallhop

On Danger Canyon, the two bases are seperated by a relatively thin canyon wall. If friendly fire is disabled and an infantryman stands against said wall, a teammate in a vehicle can ram him through the barrier, sending him from one base to the other over the course of a couple of seconds.


Yup, actually it can be done with FF on as well, an individual player can use a ghost/hog to push through wall on vehicle exit, and then jump over.

Quote: --- Original message by: BlitzOfSBB
Quote: --- Original message by: altis94
I'm sure someone could just make a sapp event that kicks or teleports players who do that.


This is probably your solution right here, Corrupt. Great idea Altis.


Sounds good, I'm looking into getting some feedback on that now. Thanks guys


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

The length of your life depends on my aim.


Posted: May 16, 2015 11:06 AM    Msg. 12 of 18       
Quote: --- Original message by: TheSenpaiModder
ITT: Casuals crying and ruining Halo CE even more. Screw you crybabies.


Why u no like haloce infants.


corrupt
Joined: Dec 5, 2011


Posted: May 16, 2015 08:29 PM    Msg. 13 of 18       
Looks like its possible with events. What would be the best way for me to figure out the coordinates I need?


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: May 16, 2015 09:15 PM    Msg. 14 of 18       
The issue with making "quick fixes" to standard maps is that they very rarely get used. You could argue to use them in a tournament, but at the same time a team shouldn't be resorting to cheats like that anyway and would obviously result in a loss.


corrupt
Joined: Dec 5, 2011


Posted: May 16, 2015 09:52 PM    Msg. 15 of 18       
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
The issue with making "quick fixes" to standard maps is that they very rarely get used. You could argue to use them in a tournament, but at the same time a team shouldn't be resorting to cheats like that anyway and would obviously result in a loss.


Gotcha, yeah it looks like using a server event is the best option. I'm trying to create a scenario to fly around in and get coords, but HEK+ won't work on my machine (crashes every time a menu tab is selected). I'm supposing there's a way to get coords using a sapp command in game


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

The length of your life depends on my aim.


Posted: May 17, 2015 10:02 AM    Msg. 16 of 18       
Quote: --- Original message by: corrupt
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
The issue with making "quick fixes" to standard maps is that they very rarely get used. You could argue to use them in a tournament, but at the same time a team shouldn't be resorting to cheats like that anyway and would obviously result in a loss.


Gotcha, yeah it looks like using a server event is the best option. I'm trying to create a scenario to fly around in and get coords, but HEK+ won't work on my machine (crashes every time a menu tab is selected). I'm supposing there's a way to get coords using a sapp command in game


Run as admin. And compatibility mode. Do you also receive the error upon startup or during the ripping process.


corrupt
Joined: Dec 5, 2011


Posted: May 19, 2015 12:05 AM    Msg. 17 of 18       
Quote: --- Original message by: SS Flanker
Quote: --- Original message by: corrupt
Quote: --- Original message by: Higuy
The issue with making "quick fixes" to standard maps is that they very rarely get used. You could argue to use them in a tournament, but at the same time a team shouldn't be resorting to cheats like that anyway and would obviously result in a loss.


Gotcha, yeah it looks like using a server event is the best option. I'm trying to create a scenario to fly around in and get coords, but HEK+ won't work on my machine (crashes every time a menu tab is selected). I'm supposing there's a way to get coords using a sapp command in game


Run as admin. And compatibility mode. Do you also receive the error upon startup or during the ripping process.


I tried both, still same thing. No error, but crashes when I open a context menu (file, tools, window etc). Seems like it tries to open up more windows afterwards for some reason, but they keep opening and closing and it never ends.


I was able to find the coordinates using a sapp command, and the event is working now. I can post instructions if anyone's interested


The Sun
Joined: Sep 16, 2013

I will never understand this place. Oh well.


Posted: May 19, 2015 07:33 AM    Msg. 18 of 18       
Yeah, you might want to "disable desktop composition" in addition to what the others said. I know how you feel tho mate :)

 

 
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