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Unethical Nightmare
Joined: Jun 15, 2014

Think first before acting


Posted: Aug 14, 2015 08:52 PM    Msg. 1 of 87       
Why do the 343i-haters attack people just for liking something different? Why are they so butthurt over what doesn't concern them?


MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Aug 14, 2015 09:01 PM    Msg. 2 of 87       
>implying people have no reason to dislike *SOME* content 343 makes.


Unethical Nightmare
Joined: Jun 15, 2014

Think first before acting


Posted: Aug 14, 2015 09:04 PM    Msg. 3 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: MEGASEAN2812
>implying people have no reason to dislike *SOME* content 343 makes.


No, they can dislike whatever they want. They have no reason to attack people who like 343's content, or flame them for liking 343.


sparky
Joined: Jun 27, 2009

Jesus is a friend to the vindictive sociopath


Posted: Aug 14, 2015 09:10 PM    Msg. 4 of 87       

Edited by sparky on Aug 20, 2015 at 01:36 PM


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

HaloCE3.com MattDratt.com


Posted: Aug 14, 2015 09:38 PM    Msg. 5 of 87       
circlejerk


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Aug 14, 2015 09:53 PM    Msg. 6 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: Unethical Nightmare
Why do the 343i-haters attack people just for liking something different? Why are they so butthurt over what doesn't concern them?

I could be considered a "343i-hater," but I don't attack anyone over it. You can like what you want to like. I'll tell you why I don't like it, but at the end of the day it's all opinion either way.


DaLode
Joined: Oct 4, 2014

Ho ho hooooly doodle!


Posted: Aug 15, 2015 04:01 AM    Msg. 7 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
Quote: --- Original message by: Unethical Nightmare
Why do the 343i-haters attack people just for liking something different? Why are they so butthurt over what doesn't concern them?

I could be considered a "343i-hater," but I don't attack anyone over it. You can like what you want to like. I'll tell you why I don't like it, but at the end of the day it's all opinion either way.


Dito.
All we can do is to try and illustrate the reasoning behind "hating 343i". Though hate is such a strong word. Dislike is more appropriate.


Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010

Former biped rigger & FP animator


Posted: Aug 15, 2015 05:03 AM    Msg. 8 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: DoodleSama
Quote: --- Original message by: DaLode
Dito.
All we can do is to try and illustrate the reasoning behind "hating 343i". Though hate is such a strong word. Dislike is more appropriate.

Pretty much, I dislike how 343i delivers a half-baked product and expects us the consumer to be okay with it.

Every AAA studio nowadays...


DaLode
Joined: Oct 4, 2014

Ho ho hooooly doodle!


Posted: Aug 15, 2015 06:16 AM    Msg. 9 of 87       
The worst part is that alot of younger gamers are getting used to it, and even accept it as OK.


Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010

Former biped rigger & FP animator


Posted: Aug 15, 2015 06:34 AM    Msg. 10 of 87       
These are sad times...


DaLode
Joined: Oct 4, 2014

Ho ho hooooly doodle!


Posted: Aug 15, 2015 07:20 AM    Msg. 11 of 87       
Usually those attempts end up with them saying:
- I need to get the phallus out of my mouth (apparently having a deep voice implies that)
- They had coitus with my mother
- It doesn't make a difference, one sale won't make them stop their ways
- Etc...


OHunterO
Joined: May 24, 2012

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Posted: Aug 15, 2015 09:54 AM    Msg. 12 of 87       
People dis-like change.


Mootjuh
Joined: Mar 12, 2008

Hilariously derailing oneliner


Posted: Aug 15, 2015 05:13 PM    Msg. 13 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: DoodleSama
I don't know man, maybe because the launch of the Master Chief Collection was a broken disaster and there are issues that still need to be addressed. "Exactly like you remember it." Funny, I don't remember Halo 3 on the Xbox 360 not having some form of ping counters, no emblems, and just not being a buggy piece of crap in general.


Pretty sure 343 wasn't even in charge of MCC's development. If we have someone to hate hate MS game studios for that particular failure.

Quote: --- Original message by: OHunterO
People dis-like change.

If that change is applying CoD mechanics into an arena shooter. Then I don't blame them. If they actually came up with original ideas then the "change" would be taken much better. Also if those changes are taking away splitscreen. Then I understand why people dislike "change".
Edited by Mootjuh on Aug 15, 2015 at 05:18 PM


OrangeJuice
Joined: Jan 29, 2009

new content isn't a mod. hhtmods are mods.


Posted: Aug 15, 2015 05:37 PM    Msg. 14 of 87       
Why do their remarks matter to you? They're console users, they should be beneath that consideration


Mootjuh
Joined: Mar 12, 2008

Hilariously derailing oneliner


Posted: Aug 15, 2015 06:39 PM    Msg. 15 of 87       
Half of us probably have an Xbox One.


Roushyy
Joined: Jun 25, 2015

Character animator.


Posted: Aug 15, 2015 07:38 PM    Msg. 16 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: OrangeJuice
Why do their remarks matter to you? They're console users, they should be beneath that consideration

inb4 your circlejerk buddies show up


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

The length of your life depends on my aim.


Posted: Aug 16, 2015 06:48 AM    Msg. 17 of 87       
Because 343i dun no how to make halo and bungie do.


savinpvtmike
Joined: Apr 18, 2010

It's heavily inserted


Posted: Aug 16, 2015 12:27 PM    Msg. 18 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: DoodleSama
I don't know man, maybe because the launch of the Master Chief Collection was a broken disaster and there are issues that still need to be addressed. "Exactly like you remember it." Funny, I don't remember Halo 3 on the Xbox 360 not having some form of ping counters, no emblems, and just not being a buggy piece of crap in general.

its not that this hate thing was long before that

but idky i like them except this



MEGA_VKNG
Joined: Dec 23, 2013


Posted: Aug 16, 2015 03:27 PM    Msg. 19 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: DoodleSama
Quote: --- Original message by: savinpvtmike
its not that this hate thing was long before that

but idky i like them except this

http://halo4nation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/2821636-web_preview.png

Snake, what are you going on about?


He's saying MCC isnt the problem and that the quality of Halo 4 overall was a factor. He's also saying he likes the art style 343 has except for stuff like the shotgun.


Mootjuh
Joined: Mar 12, 2008

Hilariously derailing oneliner


Posted: Aug 16, 2015 04:53 PM    Msg. 20 of 87       
Didn't Certain Affinity and Sabre3D do MCC? Pretty sure there was another third party involved too.


R93_Sniper
Joined: Feb 13, 2011

When in Doubt, RUN!


Posted: Aug 16, 2015 05:06 PM    Msg. 21 of 87       
Several companies did MCC, which includes 343i, BLUR, Certain Affinity, and Saber Interactive. However, 343i was mainly hands off, really only doing assets for the h2a mp and h5g beta work. Saber did H2A SP, CA did H2A MP environments, Blur did cutscenes, and some other company did the ui and combination effort. I think another did networking but i could be wrong.


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

The length of your life depends on my aim.


Posted: Aug 17, 2015 06:11 AM    Msg. 22 of 87       
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Edited by Dennis on Aug 17, 2015 at 08:10 PM


ThatGuyWhoLikesCats
Joined: Aug 3, 2015

"If God is love, then you can call me Cupid"


Posted: Aug 17, 2015 07:42 AM    Msg. 23 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: R93_Sniper
Several companies did MCC, which includes 343i, BLUR, Certain Affinity, and Saber Interactive. However, 343i was mainly hands off, really only doing assets for the h2a mp and h5g beta work. Saber did H2A SP, CA did H2A MP environments, Blur did cutscenes, and some other company did the ui and combination effort. I think another did networking but i could be wrong.

If I remember correctly that's exactly how it was. In fact the only real work 343 did was all the porting (I think) and making sure everything would run at 1080p and 60fps. As for the MCC being "broken", Microsoft is more to blame than 343i considering they pretty much rushed them to get MCC out on H2's 10th Anniversary. Hell, the same thing pretty much happened with H2 back in 04, which explained why we ended up with things like the BXR trick and Superbounce.


PRPatxi
Joined: Oct 30, 2010

Dennis, free me from this suffering


Posted: Aug 17, 2015 10:19 AM    Msg. 24 of 87       


Alice, what have you been up to lately?


PRPatxi
Joined: Oct 30, 2010

Dennis, free me from this suffering


Posted: Aug 17, 2015 10:58 AM    Msg. 25 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: DoodleSama

Quote: --- Original message by: PRPatxi
Alice, what have you been up to lately?

Job hunting and actually getting back into Halo CE modding :v
Edit: Oh and waiting for a call from my pharmacy.
Edited by DoodleSama on Aug 17, 2015 at 10:35 AM


Did u try Indeed.com when looking for jobs?


ThatGuyWhoLikesCats
Joined: Aug 3, 2015

"If God is love, then you can call me Cupid"


Posted: Aug 17, 2015 06:17 PM    Msg. 26 of 87       
My favourite Halo is H3, does that make me a "Bungie Fanboy"?


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

HaloCE3.com MattDratt.com


Posted: Aug 17, 2015 07:19 PM    Msg. 27 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: ThatGuyWhoLikesCats
My favourite Halo is H3, does that make me a "Bungie Fanboy"?


Yes


ThatGuyWhoLikesCats
Joined: Aug 3, 2015

"If God is love, then you can call me Cupid"


Posted: Aug 18, 2015 01:11 AM    Msg. 28 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt
Quote: --- Original message by: ThatGuyWhoLikesCats
My favourite Halo is H3, does that make me a "Bungie Fanboy"?


Yes

matt y u do dis


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

The length of your life depends on my aim.


Posted: Aug 18, 2015 04:07 PM    Msg. 29 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: DoodleSama

Quote: --- Original message by: PRPatxi
Alice, what have you been up to lately?

Job hunting and actually getting back into Halo CE modding :v
Edit: Oh and waiting for a call from my pharmacy.
Edited by DoodleSama on Aug 17, 2015 at 10:35 AM


Skinny pills don't work. Exercise.


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

The length of your life depends on my aim.


Posted: Aug 18, 2015 05:33 PM    Msg. 30 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: DoodleSama
Quote: --- Original message by: SS Flanker
Skinny pills don't work. Exercise.

Your hatred towards me has you grasping for straws now.


I don't hate you, and I certainly wouldnt wqnt you dead.

Afterall what would fatman be without robin.


Hynlan Jenkins
Joined: Jul 7, 2015


Posted: Aug 21, 2015 04:46 PM    Msg. 31 of 87       
I am excited to see what 343 has in-store for Halo 5. I agree that MCC was a mess on launch and months after its release, but I do have faith in 343 and want to see them succeed in taking over the Halo franchise. I do mean Succeed as in "win" the fans back and bring new ones. Although the removing of split screen in H5 is a step back to those who enjoy weekend lan parties.
Edited by Hynlan Jenkins on Aug 21, 2015 at 04:46 PM


killzone64
Joined: Jun 9, 2010

Mostly active on discord


Posted: Aug 21, 2015 07:06 PM    Msg. 32 of 87       
because some people are egotistical and want to feel better than others, its simply how humans are. if you guys like the 343 stuff most of us wont rub it in your face, but it goes both ways. we get people from your side that try to tell us that bungie halo was utter crap and 343 is better.

people argue cause they want confrontation


i will give my opinions on the new series again.

i do not like 343's artstyle whatsoever. none of their models/designs feel practical and somewhat grounded in modern science/theory like bungies were. and imo the human tech in halo 4 in a lot of the models looks like they have taken a step back technologically.

the armors have random detail tossed in for no reason other that they think it looks cool (imo the halo 4+ armors look ugly) anniversary looks good but thats because 343 didnt make anniversary, for the most part all the art was certain affinity and sabre interactive.

all in all it feels like they are pandering to the kids who think graphics are the most important thing in a game. it feels like they care more about how the game looks than how it plays. lots of people compared it to cod, it wasnt like cod but it was like halo either to me, the music didnt gel with me (they ruined the anniversary soundtrack for halo 2).

overall i was not impressed with halo 4 at all. reach had me on edge but imo with a bunch of tweaks that game would have been perfect, and halo 4 made it look like a masterpiece.

halo 5 is interesting but i have yet to play it so i wont complain yet. i dont like they wayt they are taking the game, encounters are too fast now imo, but thats what the masses seem to want now they want instant gratification and dgaf about working to win, they want to be insta pros instead of practicing...

all in all... i miss the old days of fps games

Edited by killzone64 on Aug 22, 2015 at 12:23 AM


Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010

Former biped rigger & FP animator


Posted: Aug 21, 2015 10:06 PM    Msg. 33 of 87       
Quote: --- Original message by: Hynlan Jenkins
I am excited to see what 343 has in-store for Halo 5. I agree that MCC was a mess on launch and months after its release, but I do have faith in 343 and want to see them succeed in taking over the Halo franchise. I do mean Succeed as in "win" the fans back and bring new ones. Although the removing of split screen in H5 is a step back to those who enjoy weekend lan parties.

So naive...


DaLode
Joined: Oct 4, 2014

Ho ho hooooly doodle!


Posted: Aug 22, 2015 03:37 AM    Msg. 34 of 87       
What Altheros said.
Though I'd like to add:
"bungie was halo glory"
"became halo phony with odst and reach"


EtchyaSketch
Joined: Apr 11, 2014

S P I N


Posted: Aug 22, 2015 05:02 AM    Msg. 35 of 87       
I get why people rag on 343 for gameplay and some art style choices, but I've gotta say that Halo 4 was a great step froward in story telling that a old franchise really needed.

 
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