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Author Topic: PSA: How to make Guerilla's UI not look like crap on Windows 10 (25 messages, Page 1 of 1)
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SOI_7
Joined: Mar 23, 2012

ZA WARUDO! TOKI WO TOMARE!


Posted: Jun 2, 2016 07:41 AM    Msg. 1 of 25       
Sir, you deserve a cookie <3


stunt_man
Joined: Sep 22, 2009

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Posted: Jun 2, 2016 11:54 AM    Msg. 2 of 25       
Thanks, this is a good tip.


Goldy De Wise
Joined: Dec 24, 2011

GTA Halo PR guy


Posted: Jun 2, 2016 01:14 PM    Msg. 3 of 25       
10/10.


ScarFOx
Joined: Sep 26, 2015

This twisted game needs to be reset - Pixy 1995


Posted: Jun 2, 2016 03:11 PM    Msg. 4 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: Goldy De Wise
10/10.

11/10 ;)


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

HaloCE3.com MattDratt.com


Posted: Jun 2, 2016 08:40 PM    Msg. 5 of 25       
Ive gotten so use to it the other way this almost feels weird


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 10:38 AM    Msg. 6 of 25       
no way to get it to work in W7?


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

The length of your life depends on my aim.


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 10:42 AM    Msg. 7 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Master
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
no way to get it to work in W7?
You mean in W7 compatibility mode or WVista compatibility mode in W7?


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Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

The length of your life depends on my aim.


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 11:33 AM    Msg. 8 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Master
Quote: --- Original message by: Super Flanker
Quote: --- Original message by: The Master
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
no way to get it to work in W7?
You mean in W7 compatibility mode or WVista compatibility mode in W7?


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It made sense in my head...

Guerilla running on Windows 7 in Windows Vista compatibility mode or

Guerilla running on Windows 8/8.1/10 in Windows 7 compatibility mode?


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RadWolfie
Joined: Dec 24, 2013

Programmer


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 11:47 AM    Msg. 9 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
no way to get it to work in W7?


Nope, I tried it in almost any method I can with compatibility mode, visual themes, and even desktop composition. His method only works with Windows 10 (can't confirm for Windows 8/8.1, might does work). The only thing works for Windows 7 is change theme to "Windows Classic" theme. Source: http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=33293
Edited by RadWolfie on Jun 3, 2016 at 11:48 AM


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 02:10 PM    Msg. 10 of 25       
Lame, I run my main windows machine on my Macbook Pro so I need to use hidpi scaling available only with Areo to correctly render things on the Retina display.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 02:53 PM    Msg. 11 of 25       
Yeah, it's really unfortunate the hardware is better than that of comparably priced windows laptops. Having multiple VMs having them tie in seamlessly with OSX has been so vital to SPV3, it simply wouldn't be possible for us to have made the mod just using windows.


Scott
Joined: Apr 4, 2005

No.


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 03:21 PM    Msg. 12 of 25       
You could just rewrite the entire thing and make it not look like crap.

But CE is dead, too much effort.


DaLode
Joined: Oct 4, 2014

Ho ho hooooly doodle!


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 03:33 PM    Msg. 13 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337it simply wouldn't be possible for us to have made the mod just using windows.


It's like a classic 90's advertisement.
How much apples is Apple paying you.
And more importantly: Granny Smith or Jonagold?


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 03:40 PM    Msg. 14 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Master
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Yeah, it's really unfortunate the hardware is better than that of comparably priced windows laptops. Having multiple VMs having them tie in seamlessly with OSX has been so vital to SPV3, it simply wouldn't be possible for us to have made the mod just using windows.
See this is why I can't take you seriously.


You can't find a machine that competes with the 15" retina macbook pro with the high end GPU on price. If I'm so wrong go find me one.


kirby_422
Joined: Jan 22, 2006

Apparently public enemy number 1?


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 04:17 PM    Msg. 15 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Quote: --- Original message by: The Master
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Yeah, it's really unfortunate the hardware is better than that of comparably priced windows laptops. Having multiple VMs having them tie in seamlessly with OSX has been so vital to SPV3, it simply wouldn't be possible for us to have made the mod just using windows.
See this is why I can't take you seriously.


You can't find a machine that competes with the 15" retina macbook pro with the high end GPU on price. If I'm so wrong go find me one.

So, assuming Apple's own website is accurate, $2449 will get me an INTEGRATED GRAPHICS CARD... So, I could find a 400 dollar computer with a non-integrated graphics card; the battle against that model is won.

Now, lets look at the $3049 model, that actually has a dedicated graphics card, like you would expect of every computer more than 600 dollars. Lazily used the first web result on bench marking tests, next, I went to the best buy website, picked gaming laptop, and sorted by lowest possible price. This found me this low rated thing. From there, I used the same benchmarking site (Which my 10 seconds of looking around didnt have direct comparision options, so I gave up and manaually compared a few values) and viewed the card from that $999 computer From there, I compared the actual benchmark apps; seemed pretty much the same. Then, in the game section, I found one game that matched up "Witcher 3", and the $999 had a few frames more on every resolution. *shrug* should have found a better site that had side by side comparisons, but whatever.

No effort, first computer I compared it with, I found one that had an approximately equivilent card, for two thousand dollars less.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 04:19 PM    Msg. 16 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Master
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Quote: --- Original message by: The Master
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
Yeah, it's really unfortunate the hardware is better than that of comparably priced windows laptops. Having multiple VMs having them tie in seamlessly with OSX has been so vital to SPV3, it simply wouldn't be possible for us to have made the mod just using windows.
See this is why I can't take you seriously.


You can't find a machine that competes with the 15" retina macbook pro with the high end GPU on price. If I'm so wrong go find me one.

https://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/devices/surface-pro-4#techspec-block


Not even an even close comparison. speced the same as my MBP its only slightly cheaper, with a much smaller and low resolution screen as well as slower SSD. Plus everyone knows the Surface Book is still buggy as hell and prone to crashes as it was rushed out.
Edited by Masters1337 on Jun 3, 2016 at 04:22 PM


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 04:26 PM    Msg. 17 of 25       
Seriously? http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/surface-pro-4-book-crashes-driver-update/#:PiMhpPXYRQofoA

From everything I've read it's still plagued with issues.

@Kirby, you are looking at the 13" model, all 15" come with a discreet GPU and Integrated, it switches between the 2 depending on workload. That machine also has a low resolution screen, physical hard drive to start as well.


kirby_422
Joined: Jan 22, 2006

Apparently public enemy number 1?


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 04:30 PM    Msg. 18 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337
@Kirby, you are looking at the 13" model, all 15" come with a discreet GPU and Integrated, it switches between the 2 depending on workload. That machine also has a low resolution screen, physical hard drive to start as well.

So, you are saying the website is wrong then, because it clearly states 15 inch, and states $2449 is an intel graphics, which any web search will clearly inform you that yes, it is indeed a integrated graphics.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 04:43 PM    Msg. 19 of 25       
Hm. I'll have to check when I get home. Regardless, even with a discreet gpu the machines are t equally spec'd, with the MacBook taking the edge


DaLode
Joined: Oct 4, 2014

Ho ho hooooly doodle!


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 05:06 PM    Msg. 20 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: Bungie
Halo was meant to be developed with a 15" retina macbook pro with high end GPU.


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 05:45 PM    Msg. 21 of 25       
My Macbook Pro 13 inch and my gaming laptop both cost the same, yet the macbook totally sucks for gaming while my gaming laptop handles everything with ease. The specs are nowhere near the same.

It's obvious that you are paying for the Apple Tax. (granted, the Apple ecosystem is one of the best but eh)


I should add that Windows users have no need to run VMware for Mac OS, while Mac OS users do...

Does this mean Mac OS isn't as capable as we thought?
Edited by Jesse on Jun 3, 2016 at 05:46 PM


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

The length of your life depends on my aim.


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 06:02 PM    Msg. 22 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: DaLode
Quote: --- Original message by: Masters1337it simply wouldn't be possible for us to have made the mod just using windows.


It's like a classic 90's advertisement.
How much apples is Apple paying you.
And more importantly: Granny Smith or Jonagold?


Golden delcious!

Cheers for the giggles.


Masters1337
Joined: Mar 5, 2006

halonaminator's unfortunate idol


Posted: Jun 3, 2016 07:17 PM    Msg. 23 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: Jesse

My Macbook Pro 13 inch and my gaming laptop both cost the same, yet the macbook totally sucks for gaming while my gaming laptop handles everything with ease. The specs are nowhere near the same.

It's obvious that you are paying for the Apple Tax. (granted, the Apple ecosystem is one of the best but eh)


I should add that Windows users have no need to run VMware for Mac OS, while Mac OS users do...

Does this mean Mac OS isn't as capable as we thought?
Edited by Jesse on Jun 3, 2016 at 05:46 PM


Well there is your problem, one had a discrete GPU, the other doesn't. I don't use the macbook for gaming anyway which is why I do have a spare PC I use just for games. You aren't even providing specs... so I don't know why you are bringing it up.


Jesse
Joined: Jan 18, 2009

Discord: Holy Crust#4500


Posted: Jun 4, 2016 02:38 AM    Msg. 24 of 25       
No need. Even the most expensive mac doesn't come close. (and that's 2k+)

That said, I still love my Mac. Different tools for different jobs I guess.


Super Flanker
Joined: Oct 5, 2012

The length of your life depends on my aim.


Posted: Jun 4, 2016 03:11 PM    Msg. 25 of 25       
Quote: --- Original message by: Jesse
Different tools for different jobs I guess.


And we can leave it there guise.
Edited by Super Flanker on Jun 4, 2016 at 03:11 PM

 

 
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