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JoshGee
Joined: Nov 7, 2017


Posted: Nov 7, 2017 09:06 PM    Msg. 1 of 23       
Every time I try to add Sentinel AI to a map it gives me a message saying "Not all the selected tags could be added to palette."


MrChromed
Joined: Apr 14, 2013

What are you looking at?


Posted: Nov 8, 2017 10:45 AM    Msg. 2 of 23       
Your tag has missing references. You can open the debug.txt file included in your CE folder, and see what's happening. It should say that one or more tags references are missing and so.

For example (you need to open Guerilla once you know what's happening thanks to the debug.txt report): This biped has 3 missing files: the gbxmodel, the .model_animations and the collision_geometry. Those files could be in another folder, renamed or even deleted. If these files are not existing anymore, the .actor_variant will fail to open. That's why you need to check your debug.txt in order to know how many references are missing. I hope this could help.


Edited by Isxz on Nov 8, 2017 at 10:49 AM


Jobalisk
Joined: Feb 8, 2014

The haiku master。


Posted: Nov 8, 2017 08:49 PM    Msg. 3 of 23       
best thing to do, add the sentinal to the game with Guerilla, try to compile, and the compiler will tell you exactly what tags you are missing, keep adding the missing tags until it compiles fine.


MosesofEgypt
Joined: Apr 3, 2013


Posted: Nov 8, 2017 09:25 PM    Msg. 4 of 23       
Install the MEK, run Mozzarilla, set your tags directory to your halo custom edition one, go into its tools section, run the tags directory scanner, hit "select all" and hit run. When it finally finishes it'll tell you which tags in that folder are trying to reference another tag that is missing.

http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=50424
Edited by MosesofEgypt on Nov 8, 2017 at 09:36 PM


JoshGee
Joined: Nov 7, 2017


Posted: Nov 9, 2017 01:34 AM    Msg. 5 of 23       
The problem is whenever I try to load any map with sentinels on sapien it doesn't open. I could download a working online map with sentinels,get the scenario file and it still won't open.i downloaded the files off halo maps.org. One of you has to have the answer !
Edited by JoshGee on Nov 9, 2017 at 01:44 AM
Edited by JoshGee on Nov 9, 2017 at 01:54 AM


cippozzo
Joined: May 7, 2013

"I... I am a monument to all your sins."


Posted: Nov 9, 2017 07:08 AM    Msg. 6 of 23       
Listen to Moses
Edited by cippozzo on Nov 9, 2017 at 09:24 AM


MosesofEgypt
Joined: Apr 3, 2013


Posted: Nov 9, 2017 08:14 AM    Msg. 7 of 23       
LITERALLY DO WHAT I SAID. The scenario file is not all a map is. A map consists of thousands of individual files that link together. The scenario references the sentinel.biped tag, which references a sentinel.gbxmodel tag, which references shaders which reference bitmaps. You can think of this as a "tree" of dependencies. You NEED EVERY SINGLE ONE of the tags in this tree to be in your tags directory. If even one is missing it wont load in sapien.



I have written a tool that will literally scan through every tag in a tags directory and tell you which tags point to a tag that is missing. It will tell you which tag is missing, which tag needs it, and the name of the field in the tag that needs it.



If you do what I said earlier you will have this tool to use.


JoshGee
Joined: Nov 7, 2017


Posted: Nov 9, 2017 01:20 PM    Msg. 8 of 23       
Mozzarilla no console isn't opening at all. Mozzarella console is but it takes me to the twindow and says ImportError:no module named mozzarilla
Edited by JoshGee on Nov 9, 2017 at 01:35 PM


MosesofEgypt
Joined: Apr 3, 2013


Posted: Nov 9, 2017 01:38 PM    Msg. 9 of 23       
I linked you to the installer which contains the mek's setup file, a readme on how to install the mek, and 2 python installers. Do what the readme says. Texource is an entirely different program than mozzarilla, but they are both in the MEK.


EDIT: You didn't properly install the MEK. It can't find mozzarilla. If you chose the portable install then don't move the files it created out of the MEK. They have to be in there with the mek_lib folder. I recommend you dont do a portable install if you plan to move the files around.
Edited by MosesofEgypt on Nov 9, 2017 at 02:15 PM


JoshGee
Joined: Nov 7, 2017


Posted: Nov 9, 2017 03:53 PM    Msg. 10 of 23       
Your programming isnt working correctly i followed your directions and it still failed MEK doesnt open when i reinstall python. Debug has helped showing me the errors i just neeed to find someway of getting those files.
Edited by JoshGee on Nov 9, 2017 at 03:56 PM


BlaCk9Jack9
Joined: Nov 9, 2017


Posted: Nov 9, 2017 04:05 PM    Msg. 11 of 23       
I am having similar problems as well when I try to add tags like Pelican, Arbiter, or the DMR weapon. I looked on Youtube only to come up empty handed as I am sure you did. Moses what can I do to get correct tags?


MosesofEgypt
Joined: Apr 3, 2013


Posted: Nov 9, 2017 04:13 PM    Msg. 12 of 23       
Run the mek's installer again and hit install, but this time check "show detailed information" and show me what the installer spits out.


JoshGee
Joined: Nov 7, 2017


Posted: Nov 9, 2017 04:16 PM    Msg. 13 of 23       
I would have done that but every time I press the mek literally nothing happens


MosesofEgypt
Joined: Apr 3, 2013


Posted: Nov 9, 2017 04:23 PM    Msg. 14 of 23       
You're going to need to be more verbatim with your explanations of what you're doing. What do you mean "press the mek". Fully form your responses before you respond. You aren't the first person to talk like this and you wont be the last, but without usable information I cannot help you.

What is the current state of your machine? Do you have python installed? What version? If you cant run mek_installer.pyw then you don't have python installed.


JoshGee
Joined: Nov 7, 2017


Posted: Nov 9, 2017 04:27 PM    Msg. 15 of 23       
You were talking about running the MEK program and I explained what happened when I tried to run it. Nothing. I will attempt to reinstall your program from your link. Update: Everytime I reinstall it, it already says its installed even though I already uninstalled Python.

Edited by JoshGee on Nov 9, 2017 at 04:34 PM


Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010

Former biped rigger & FP animator


Posted: Nov 10, 2017 07:22 PM    Msg. 16 of 23       
Restarting your computer inbetween installs and uninstalls tends to help.
I'm not super knowledgeable or anything but something something registry values leftover or whatnot.
Edited by Spartan314 on Nov 10, 2017 at 07:23 PM


Bungie LLC
Joined: Dec 29, 2013

friendly neighborhood contrarian funposter


Posted: Nov 20, 2017 04:13 AM    Msg. 17 of 23       
Moses, you're going to kill yourself if you keep trying to help every braindead pleb you come across.

Please understand that there are many individuals out there who, if not granted the instant accessibility of an .exe that they simply run and expect to work immediately, are not going to be able to comprehend what it is that is required of them to get the MEK working properly.


JoshGee
Joined: Nov 7, 2017


Posted: Nov 23, 2017 03:26 PM    Msg. 18 of 23       
You must be another one of Moses bots. Or are the people in this community with helpful knowledge gone already. Your poorly made program is not compatible for my computer. Not my fault you moron. If you wanted to actually help instead of trying to get more download for yourself you would have provided me to a working sentinel file which is how the problem was solved. Quite easily also. Sad how people like you bully off inexperienced people from a good game !


MosesofEgypt
Joined: Apr 3, 2013


Posted: Nov 23, 2017 04:53 PM    Msg. 19 of 23       
First off, I don't have bots. Secondly I'm sorry that you're having trouble getting my programs to work, as that is something I actively try to work with people to fix. I have poured literally thousands of hours of work into researching, designing, and writing them entirely by myself over the last 5 years.

Go ahead though, tell me how just because YOU can't figure out how to get it to run, that means my design is poor and not something wrong on your end. Tell me how you are an expert programmer and can determine good programming from poor programming(the source code to all my programs is right at your disposal, so go take a look). Tell me how me trying to help you and you not giving me the information I need to work with is bullying. Tell me how you expecting the community to just give you any file you ask for is better than them teaching you how to be self reliant and be able to acquire it for yourself.

Go ahead and keep trying to troll me like this. I really don't give a crap because at the end of the day, YOU are the one who misses out, not me. I already know you're going to respond with "something something you are moron ha ha something something your tools suck something something i am teh victim here something something i am not a troll".
Edited by MosesofEgypt on Nov 23, 2017 at 05:27 PM


JoshGee
Joined: Nov 7, 2017


Posted: Nov 24, 2017 01:12 AM    Msg. 20 of 23       
The downloads on your program don't lie. Just because you poured hours of research doesnt mean anything. Those hours of research could have been crap for all I know.(I have waisted plenty of hours on pointless research as well) You may have helped a few people but the fact is there is alot of people whom your programs have failed. Yeah it may be a little rude of me to point out like this but there needs to be better help provided in this community is my point. Take Note and thank you. :)


MosesofEgypt
Joined: Apr 3, 2013


Posted: Nov 24, 2017 11:24 AM    Msg. 21 of 23       
You don't have a worthwhile metric to measure how the MEK has affected this community. Download counts from a single website are as worthless as your attempts at trolling. I think I'm done responding to you as well since It's pretty clear you're a troll. I just wanted to make sure to have the last word. :)


Sargent 0
Joined: Nov 21, 2017

P.I.M.P.


Posted: Feb 22, 2018 12:10 AM    Msg. 22 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: JoshGee
The downloads on your program don't lie. Just because you poured hours of research doesnt mean anything. Those hours of research could have been crap for all I know.(I have waisted plenty of hours on pointless research as well) You may have helped a few people but the fact is there is alot of people whom your programs have failed. Yeah it may be a little rude of me to point out like this but there needs to be better help provided in this community is my point. Take Note and thank you. :)

lol...What a fricken idiot


Kinnet
Joined: Dec 27, 2013

Natsuki best boy


Posted: Feb 22, 2018 01:49 AM    Msg. 23 of 23       
Quote: --- Original message by: Sargent 0
Quote: --- Original message by: JoshGee
The downloads on your program don't lie. Just because you poured hours of research doesnt mean anything. Those hours of research could have been crap for all I know.(I have waisted plenty of hours on pointless research as well) You may have helped a few people but the fact is there is alot of people whom your programs have failed. Yeah it may be a little rude of me to point out like this but there needs to be better help provided in this community is my point. Take Note and thank you. :)

lol...What a fricken idiot

lol...What a pointless bump

 

 
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