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Generalkidd
Joined: Dec 6, 2017


Posted: Dec 6, 2017 02:37 PM    Msg. 1 of 12       
I'm trying to spawn the marine with gutted torso in Halo CE. It's in the campaign missions on a couple missions, it's basically the marine version of the Elite with the gutted torso on the mission 343 Guilty Spark. I don't know how to spawn that specific variation of the marine though. I don't need it to have AI or anything. Just simply spawning it like shooting a biped out of a pistol would do.


bingo
Joined: Sep 17, 2017


Posted: Dec 6, 2017 07:58 PM    Msg. 2 of 12       
That's just a scenery model. It's not a biped that can stand up on it's own and do anything. Though somebody might have turned it into a biped and uploaded it so search around.

Are you karia007?


Generalkidd
Joined: Dec 6, 2017


Posted: Dec 6, 2017 08:37 PM    Msg. 3 of 12       
Quote: --- Original message by: bingo
That's just a scenery model. It's not a biped that can stand up on it's own and do anything. Though somebody might have turned it into a biped and uploaded it so search around.

Are you karia007?


Nah I'm not karia007. Also I'm pretty sure the marine isn't a scenery object. For example, that mangled elite, it's in characters/elite/elite_corpse as a separate model but the marine's torso isn't. It's stored in A10.map the same way the various faces are, however, I don't know how to get a certain face (and in this case torso) to spawn in.

I have a picture at this link of what the marine looks like and how you can apply different variations of the marine included the one with the gutted torso. I'm new to this forum so I can't directly post the picture but here's a link to it: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/344330216765784066/388031067812003840/image.png
Edited by Generalkidd on Dec 6, 2017 at 08:39 PM


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

CE3 - Takedown - HaloCE3.com


Posted: Dec 6, 2017 08:55 PM    Msg. 4 of 12       
When placing a biped theres a spot for "desired permutation".

Look in the model. The permutation is usually numbered


Generalkidd
Joined: Dec 6, 2017


Posted: Dec 7, 2017 12:18 AM    Msg. 5 of 12       
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt
When placing a biped theres a spot for "desired permutation".

Look in the model. The permutation is usually numbered


How do I do that? The modding tools and editors I've used don't have that option it seems. I'm using HHT and Eschaton and I don't see the option to change the permutation in the bipeds. I looked into SparkEdit but I have no idea how to use that or if that's even the right tool for this.


Isxz
Joined: Apr 14, 2013

MrChromed


Posted: Dec 7, 2017 10:30 AM    Msg. 6 of 12       
Alright. I managed to edit the gbxmodel, so you can use the Marine with gutted torso. The thing is: you can only spawn that permutation. So, all the Marines will have the gutted torso. I don't know if that may help you. I don't know how to modding with Halo PC. I edited this using the HEK for Custom Edition, but I guess you know how to inject models in Halo PC (iirc, that's possible).

Anyways, here's the link for the gbxmodel: https://www.mediafire.com/file/a9615fig2ie6kim/marine_armored.rar


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

CE3 - Takedown - HaloCE3.com


Posted: Dec 7, 2017 06:47 PM    Msg. 7 of 12       
Quote: --- Original message by: Generalkidd
I'm using HHT and Eschaton


well that's your issue
Edited by MatthewDratt on Dec 7, 2017 at 06:47 PM


Generalkidd
Joined: Dec 6, 2017


Posted: Dec 7, 2017 08:37 PM    Msg. 8 of 12       
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt

Quote: --- Original message by: Generalkidd
I'm using HHT and Eschaton


well that's your issue
Edited by MatthewDratt on Dec 7, 2017 at 06:47 PM


What would you recommend I use then? I'm not too familiar with many other Halo PC modding tools.


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

CE3 - Takedown - HaloCE3.com


Posted: Dec 7, 2017 11:32 PM    Msg. 9 of 12       
Quote: --- Original message by: Generalkidd
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt

Quote: --- Original message by: Generalkidd
I'm using HHT and Eschaton


well that's your issue
Edited by MatthewDratt on Dec 7, 2017 at 06:47 PM


What would you recommend I use then?


Halo Custom Edition + HEK


Generalkidd
Joined: Dec 6, 2017


Posted: Dec 7, 2017 11:40 PM    Msg. 10 of 12       
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt
Quote: --- Original message by: Generalkidd
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt

Quote: --- Original message by: Generalkidd
I'm using HHT and Eschaton


well that's your issue
Edited by MatthewDratt on Dec 7, 2017 at 06:47 PM


What would you recommend I use then?


Halo Custom Edition + HEK


There's nothing simpler for the PC version? I've never used the HEK before and I was hoping to spawn that marine I could just do a projectile swap or something simple along those lines.


not giraffe
Joined: Jul 17, 2014


Posted: Dec 8, 2017 10:59 AM    Msg. 11 of 12       
Quote: --- Original message by: Generalkidd
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt
Quote: --- Original message by: Generalkidd
Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt

Quote: --- Original message by: Generalkidd
I'm using HHT and Eschaton


well that's your issue
Edited by MatthewDratt on Dec 7, 2017 at 06:47 PM


What would you recommend I use then?


Halo Custom Edition + HEK


There's nothing simpler for the PC version? I've never used the HEK before and I was hoping to spawn that marine I could just do a projectile swap or something simple along those lines.


This forum is for Halo CE, where CE stands for Custom Edition, not Combat Evolved.


Pepzee
Joined: Sep 9, 2010


Posted: Dec 9, 2017 12:41 AM    Msg. 12 of 12       
Quote: --- Original message by: Generalkidd
There's nothing simpler for the PC version?

Unfortunately I don't believe so. Halo PC was released without any modding capabilities whatsoever. This was done with the intent that Gearbox would come back after Halo PC was released and create Halo Custom Edition that would allow for mods.

So any editing on Halo PC that can be done tend to be rather simple tools that do hacks instead of actual mods. What you are trying to do with permutations is starting to go beyond the hacking capability of some of those programs.

 

 
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