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The Kingx
Joined: Mar 16, 2014

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Posted: Apr 25, 2018 12:48 PM    Msg. 1 of 27       
Phil Spencer, head of Xbox, just tweeted this . Could all of our hopes and dreams finally come true?


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com


Posted: Apr 25, 2018 01:36 PM    Msg. 2 of 27       
Well as they see how much attention a free Halo PC is getting, they gotta get in on this lost ca$h.

Also this is mostly just PR speak for "sorry about all these dmcas we about to slap everyone lol"


HandofGod
Joined: Jan 10, 2014

Halo Mac/MD Player & Modder


Posted: Apr 25, 2018 07:54 PM    Msg. 3 of 27       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Kingx
Phil Spencer, head of Xbox, just tweeted this . Could all of our hopes and dreams finally come true?


I'll believe it when I see it. Phil Spencer has only really delivered on making XBone backwards compatible with older Halo games so far


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Apr 26, 2018 12:01 AM    Msg. 4 of 27       
Quote: --- Original message by: The Kingx
Could all of our hopes and dreams finally come true?

It's the same message they've been giving us for 10+ years: "We're open to the idea," "We're keeping all our options on the table," "We're listening," "It's an exciting prospect." It's another non-answer.


Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010

Former biped rigger & FP animator


Posted: Apr 26, 2018 03:34 AM    Msg. 5 of 27       
I was more excited about that time in Modacity than this.


The Kingx
Joined: Mar 16, 2014

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Posted: Apr 26, 2018 09:06 AM    Msg. 6 of 27       
Quote: --- Original message by: Echo77
Quote: --- Original message by: The Kingx
Could all of our hopes and dreams finally come true?

It's the same message they've been giving us for 10+ years: "We're open to the idea," "We're keeping all our options on the table," "We're listening," "It's an exciting prospect." It's another non-answer.


Well, there's also this. . They seem to be pushing that angle more than they used to.
I can totally understand why you're being so skeptical about it, though. And I'm worried that, if they end up releasing MCC/Halo 6 on PC, that it'll just be a Windows Store exclusive or be fairly broken from launch.
\_(ツ)_/


Spartan314
Joined: Aug 21, 2010

Former biped rigger & FP animator


Posted: Apr 26, 2018 09:07 PM    Msg. 7 of 27       
As far as I can tell they're just using that excuse to take down ElDewrito.
They mention CE as a passerby comment.
I really don't think they have any intention of doing anything PC at all.


1bobsam1
Joined: Mar 18, 2010

I win. You lose.


Posted: Apr 27, 2018 08:20 PM    Msg. 8 of 27       
Quote: --- Original message by: Spartan314
As far as I can tell they're just using that excuse to take down ElDewrito.

There is much more to it than that. The project is quite simply illegal. Microsoft should not ignore it because if they did then they are committing a double standard (ALMOST, I just say double standard because it's the easiest way to look at it), it would be almost like Microsoft saying "Oh since so many people want to play this illegal project we'll let it slide. But this other guy over here who has a lesser cared about project that is also illegal lets shut him down." If they ignored it it would look bad for their company. It has nothing to do with current or future plans it's a plain and simple legal move that they have to do but I and many others wish they did not do. A lot of people forget this. In the end you can still play the mod and will be able to for a long time, updates to the project may or may not be a thing anymore that's it.


R93_Sniper
Joined: Feb 13, 2011

When in Doubt, RUN!


Posted: May 10, 2018 01:34 PM    Msg. 9 of 27       
Quote: --- Original message by: sparky

-snip-


^ see this guy up here? He has no idea what he's talking about. He's got a shoe so far up his back side that its sticking out of his mouth. Regardless, if you want to figure out why he's wrong, do some basic research on how IP law works in the US. That way you can be more informed than this doofus.


Higuy
Joined: Mar 6, 2007

@lucasgovatos


Posted: May 10, 2018 01:56 PM    Msg. 10 of 27       
Quote: --- Original message by: sparky
If you want to respond to anything I say, you'll have to show critical thinking beyond misquoting my post by showing that I said "snip".
Edited by sparky on May 10, 2018 at 01:39 PM


Sparky - a person who is apparently experienced in IP law but doesn't seem to realize that people use "-snip-" as a way to quote someone but not the entire length of their very long post, as a way to save space. Nice.


OrangeJuice
Joined: Jan 29, 2009

I'm feeling much better now, thanks!


Posted: May 10, 2018 02:12 PM    Msg. 11 of 27       
Luckily these forums are so ridiculously old and outdated that I can simply just download an entire tree branch of history from it so that another mass-deletion can't be hidden the moment people realize they've screwed up.



In hindsight, anyone who makes content for haloCE can make backups of a forum hive for the purpose of malice and truth. Us halomaps devs are pretty smart.
Edited by OrangeJuice on May 10, 2018 at 08:25 PM


DeadHamster
Joined: Jun 8, 2014

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Posted: May 10, 2018 02:19 PM    Msg. 12 of 27       


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com


Posted: May 11, 2018 12:38 PM    Msg. 13 of 27       
Holy doodle what are you smoking?


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

TAKEDOWN IS OUT MattDratt.com


Posted: May 11, 2018 01:36 PM    Msg. 14 of 27       
Quote: --- Original message by: sparky

Quote: --- Original message by: MatthewDratt
Holy doodle what are you smoking?

let's face it: you're a narcissist.
Edited by sparky on May 11, 2018 at 12:46 PM


o crap you got me


DeadHamster
Joined: Jun 8, 2014

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Posted: May 11, 2018 03:28 PM    Msg. 15 of 27       
God is the biggest narcissist there is. Why dont you mull that one over


PRPatxi
Joined: Oct 30, 2010

Dennis, free me from this suffering


Posted: May 11, 2018 05:49 PM    Msg. 16 of 27       
If Microsoft sees a lot of profit in making a Halo port to the PC I'm pretty sure they would be doing it by now.

The problem lies is doing it without affecting Xbox sales.


not giraffe
Joined: Jul 17, 2014


Posted: May 11, 2018 07:55 PM    Msg. 17 of 27       
sparky, I can see you've got talent. Have you ever considered publishing bedtime stories? Just an afterthought, considering you nearly put me to sleep. I'd hate to see such talent go to waste. Not to mention the people suffering from insomnia that could benefit.


MatthewDratt
Joined: Sep 11, 2010

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Posted: May 12, 2018 12:00 AM    Msg. 18 of 27       
GUYS

HALO PC CONFIRMED!!!


Edited by MatthewDratt on May 12, 2018 at 12:01 AM


MosesofEgypt
Joined: Apr 3, 2013


Posted: May 12, 2018 02:45 AM    Msg. 19 of 27       
Started watching Hellsing Ultimate. Guess who I immediately drew parallels to when this scene started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgCLouENn-A&t=30
Edited by MosesofEgypt on May 12, 2018 at 11:03 PM


BKTiel
Joined: Mar 18, 2014

strong independent bird needs no cage


Posted: May 12, 2018 08:47 PM    Msg. 20 of 27       
Quote: --- Original message by: MosesofEgypt
Started watching Hellsing Ultimate. Guess who I immediately drew parallels to when this scene started.

<a href="http://" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgCLouENn-A&t=30/url]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgCLouENn-A&t=30


Kavawuvi
Joined: May 24, 2018

Brrrrrrring Ha!


Posted: May 25, 2018 09:52 AM    Msg. 21 of 27       
I'm not sure the Halo PC Microsoft is talking about is the Halo PC you guys want. It'll probably be a Windows 10 Store exclusive, and it might suck trying to mod it. I wouldn't be surprised if they forced vSync on or had an arbitrary 60 FPS cap.


And, oh boy, this one's a doozy.

Quote: --- Original message by: sparky

It would be completely legal if Microsoft did not make it illegal. The same goes with anything else anyone does. Everything is legal until someone says, "This is illegal." Thus, the burden of reason is placed upon the person who claims something as being illegal. Once the reason for that illegal status is gone, it should not continue to be illegal.

So stealing is legal as long as you get away with it?


Quote: --- Original message by: sparky

For example, you drive on the right side of the road in this country. But if there is a tree blocking your lane and you can go around, or when there is construction in an area of road that requires you to drive in the left lane, that reason overrules the existing illegality of driving only in the right side lane.

So there's an exception that allows you to steal from someone?


Quote: --- Original message by: sparky

But in this situation, the reason for making El Dewrito illegal no longer exists. If Microsoft was making any revenue in its Russian market, that did not apply to non-Russians like us. And this Halo Online game was discontinued anyway, which means Microsoft no longer wants to make money off of it.

While I do think it's stupid that they made this decision, Microsoft has every right to protect and control their intellectual property regardless of if it's being maintained or not. This should be reason enough.


Quote: --- Original message by: sparky

Therefore, any corporation who wants their interests to be taken seriously must provide with their works a license that respects use, not hinders the user.

Remind me why you use a Mac.
Edited by Kavawuvi on May 25, 2018 at 10:01 AM


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff. ― Carl Sagan


Posted: May 25, 2018 03:17 PM    Msg. 22 of 27       
Quote: --- Original message by: sparky
Anyone who has ever "used" an image, such as by copying it, or hot-linking to it, without explicit copyright permission, has also committed copyright infringement!
It doesn't work that way.

Quote: --- Original message by: sparky after all, Halo Online was made available for free during beta testing, wasn't it?
No it wasn't. It was offered without charge but all licensing and copyrights were maintained. Modifying, copying or redistribution was prohibited.
Quote: --- Original message by: sparky
If you have any idea what I'm saying here, you can clearly see that the whole copyright law system is a massive conspiratorial sham.
Says the guy who brags about having "multiple copyrights".

What is clear is you have no idea what you are talking about.
Edited by Dennis on May 26, 2018 at 07:29 PM


Halo Noob Modder117
Joined: Jan 22, 2016

I guess I'm just going to have to rip your tags


Posted: May 25, 2018 07:34 PM    Msg. 23 of 27       
I just want to pick on some of you guys because, some of the posts are really funny.

"It doesn't work that way"
Yes it still could. Some images can be subject to copyright, but its the internet so its not really moderated or enforced as its a waste of time and nearly impossible to do so.

"It was offered without charge"
See? you said it yourself. Offering something without charge is known as being free. If I sell you a turd free of charge which means for $0- no form of currency, it is known as being, you guessed it- for free.

"The whole copyright law system is a massive conspiratorial sham"
Conspiracies. I laugh at people who think of things as conspiracies. God damn conspiracy monger turds. Whatever happens in those tin foil hats, should stay in those tin foil hats.

"Says the guy who brags about having multiple copyrights"
Copyrights? If we are speaking in terms of mods... No, just no. Mods are mods. Nobody is suing anyone over rips or using people's mods so nothing is really happening there. Everyone has done it before, nobody has been into any form of trouble but annoying or making authors mad. Nothing legal about it.

Guys stop, this is too much!

...Sorry I just have to put this here to fuel the salt. I swear some people are just salty that some things don't make it to the PC and complain... Yet if something does come to the PC eventually... People still complain... Some people are just never satisfied I presume?
Edited by Halo Noob Modder117 on May 25, 2018 at 07:50 PM


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff. ― Carl Sagan


Posted: May 26, 2018 07:45 PM    Msg. 24 of 27       
Quote: --- Original message by: Halo Noob Modder117
"It doesn't work that way"
Yes it still could.

You are missing context. Copyright laws are not black and white and have various shades of grey, which was my point. Just hotlinking or posting a picture not yours on your website is not a violation of the copyright unless it is. It could also definitely not be a copyright violation but at the same time definitely an actionable licensing violation. or neither. It is not cut and dried and nearly always complex. The short answer to his example was "It doesn't work that way". meaning it is not a simple as that.
Quote: --- Original message by: Halo Noob Modder117
"It was offered without charge"
See? you said it yourself. Offering something without charge is known as being free.

Free, in his context, implies without restrictions but in reality all it means is without an exchange of money. Again you are missing the point.


Pepzee
Joined: Sep 9, 2010


Posted: May 27, 2018 11:27 AM    Msg. 25 of 27       
Free Speech
Free Beer

They are different kinds of free. If we spoke Spanish they would be different words. Libre and Gratis. Just because something is given away for free (gratis) does not mean it is free (libre) to use. Copyright may restrict your usage rights for software that is free.

I feel like these copyright discussions popup from time to time. If people want to sell Halo assets they made they should find another way to make money. Maybe apply for a job at Microsoft so you can be paid to make Halo assets.


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff. ― Carl Sagan


Posted: May 27, 2018 02:35 PM    Msg. 26 of 27       
Quote: --- Original message by: Pepzee
I feel like these copyright discussions popup from time to time. If people want to sell Halo assets they made they should find another way to make money.
You are correct. For the most part copyright's (in the gaming community in particular) do not become an issue until here is money involved. Either you are doing something that interferes with the owners income or trying to sell something (intellectual property) you don't own. Until money is involved it is mostly treated as viral advertising.


PRPatxi
Joined: Oct 30, 2010

Dennis, free me from this suffering


Posted: Dec 14, 2019 12:23 PM    Msg. 27 of 27       
And so, this came true at last.

 

 
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