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SBB_Michelle
Joined: Nov 4, 2015

This site brings me pain.


Posted: Aug 11, 2019 05:47 PM    Msg. 1 of 21       
The title I tried to type:
This other actually nice and active community you can join if this one is just too toxic for you.
But we only have a tiny few characters.

We have like 250 people in here and a bunch of community projects (And no flamewars or toxic behavior!)
https://discord.gg/dzN28n9

If you actually want to follow the nice community projects like Mo's editing kit, Invader, dark-circlet, salamander, Vulpes, Halo 99, Heretic hunt, Hiralis' campaign, sector 09, Jesse's Urban Map, occasional snippets from the h2v community, etc etc. This is the place, because it all is in that discord link.

If you prefer the nature of a forum I suggest going to https://opencarnage.net/

Anything but this awful site (Halomaps)

Halo Custom Edition isn't dead, just this site is. Stop digging it up from its grave.


Echo77
Joined: Jul 20, 2010

Humble thyself and hold thy tongue.


Posted: Aug 11, 2019 06:23 PM    Msg. 2 of 21       
Quote: --- Original message by: SBB_Michelle
Anything but this awful site (Halomaps)

First of all how dare you
Second of all:
How dare you


SBB_Michelle
Joined: Nov 4, 2015

This site brings me pain.


Posted: Aug 11, 2019 07:08 PM    Msg. 3 of 21       
😊

🦊
Edited by SBB_Michelle on Aug 11, 2019 at 07:10 PM


il Duce Primo
Joined: Apr 22, 2007

CMT Team Leader


Posted: Aug 11, 2019 07:23 PM    Msg. 4 of 21       
You sound like the stuck up assholes who made up modacity years ago. Goodluck to you


Nickster5000
Joined: Dec 11, 2010


Posted: Aug 11, 2019 09:58 PM    Msg. 5 of 21       
Except it is 2019, this website hasn't been updated in over 5 years, has an outdated stack & 1 person moderating it.

Doesn't sound very "stuck up" to want a better community for Halo modders & players.
Edited by Nickster5000 on Aug 11, 2019 at 09:59 PM


DeadHamster
Joined: Jun 8, 2014

https://discord.gg/Neu4EJM


Posted: Aug 11, 2019 10:08 PM    Msg. 6 of 21       
Quote: --- Original message by: il Duce Primo
You sound like the stuck up assholes who made up modacity years ago. Goodluck to you


I would make sure to trust this person's opinion on assholes since he's spent his entire life being one.


sparky
Joined: Jun 27, 2009

Jesus is a friend to the vindictive sociopath


Posted: Aug 12, 2019 12:34 AM    Msg. 7 of 21       
Well, let me set aside the interpersonal conflicts for a moment, and let us be reasonable. It is the interpersonal conflicts going unresolved that make any community "toxic" for reasonable and informative discourse. That is actually not to be blamed upon the individual, but instead of blaming the individual for being the kind of individual they are, which amounts to nothing, you have many other options for civil social progress. It may seem easier to ban (block) people in an attempt to stem a surge in unbearable verbal conflict. However, blocking access is simply blocking access. Nothing is actually fixed, so the problems follow the people around wherever they go, whether this "toxic" forum or your shiny new discord server.

So problems must be solved properly. Going on vacation, the locational cure, only brings your storms along with you elsewhere. (Hence immigration of uneducated people bringing their primitive ways with them into a very deadly and serious clash with the population at their supposed "melting pot" destination.) The interpersonal storms follow you if you don't calm them first.

"There is no peace for the wicked." People in general have the capacity for good or for evil, but what that really means is that they are either good or evil, not both. And good in this case does not mean perfectly good (neither perfect nor absolutely good like God is both perfect and absolutely good and unchanging) but they have the ability to store good things in their heart and bring good things forth from their heart, or to store evil things in their heart and bring evil things forth from their heart. Now the actions in themselves are of a nature, and that is what I have addressed, because "by their fruit you will recognize them; a good tree cannot bear bad fruit and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit -- every tree that does not bear good fruit will be pulled up by the roots and thrown into the fire".

So it really is not cooperation that brings peace, but real internal peace within the individual (only available by having God's words of life within their heart, and as knowledge and faith) manifesting itself in kindness, justice, and righteousness, those three things God said he "exercises [...] on The Earth, because in these things I delight".

Hence the point. If you are a toxic person inside, you will bring your toxicity with you wherever you go, until you get that fixed by The Spirit of God who knows your heart. If it's never fixed, it gets worse and worse like a cancer and nobody else wants to be around you because they can't stand the interpersonal conflicts that arise everywhere you go.

Without real internal peace, division ensues, then destruction. "If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand." (NIV) "A kingdom divided by civil war will collapse." (NLT) (Mark 3:24).

The only problem that frustrates me so much is that I seem to be the only person here who knows that God is not my enemy, but my helper in times of need, conflict, and stress. That alone has been why I started mentioning God and God's words here in this community in the first place: he's the definitive solution to all problems. It's proven by the fruits of civilization including the existence of The Internet. You don't build a tool for communication when you aren't willing to listen to reason. Hospitals and schools are fundamental to society -- those institutions are Catholic (Christian) inventions. It is no accident that The USA has lasted while other non-Christian nations have not developed and are in perpetual civil war.

Interpersonal division is necessary to maintain integrity. (Luke 12:49-53). But isn't this community in civil war?

Mother Theresa is considered a peaceful person, yes? She said that "you gotta have Jesus in your heart". But the apostasy of atheistic humanism and the drive of socialist communism begins in the schoolroom class on evolutionary darwinism -- Darwin, that stooge of atheistic humanism who lived as an involute incapacitated by all kinds of crippling diseases and psychological disorders his entire life because one does not insult God and get away with it. But the kids are taught in school to choose Charles Darwin as their "god" and to discard with all facts and reality in light of that sadistic and murderous human's hypotheses and "theories" completely disconnected from all facts and reality and all the culmination of the human race's knowledge and God-breathed recorded words.

Kind of a no-brain-er when one puts it this way, yes? Good luck being taught the truth in a classroom nowadays, as men embrace perversion and lies in their choosing corruption and deceit instead of truth and wisdom. I could go on, but my point is made.

Each of you "is old enough to reject the wrong and choose the right". But have you?

War is an escalation of interpersonal conflict. If you fix the interpersonal conflict properly, it never leads to anger, murder, and war. Hence Matthew 5:21-22 -- "You have heard that it was said to the ancients, 'Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.' But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of Hell."

So here is what I propose to you: do you want to be like the IBM-created eugenicist Adolf Hitler who, through the socialist NAZI party spread fascist atheistic-humanist communism with the self-admitted relativist Mussolini to imprison, torture, and genocidally murder millions of people and cause World War 2, or do you want to be like the Catholic Mother Theresa, who, as a disciple (student) of Jesus Christ, worked to aid and educate the needy and poor, and played a pivotal role in ending World War 2 and preventing further world wars?

Which kind of person would you describe as "toxic": Adolf Hitler or Mother Theresa? And from which will you learn and which will become your role model?

Or put another way, if you are so comfortable with the status quo of folly and perversion, why are you complaining about the people who use this forum? Perhaps you don't actually like the fruits of your own doctrines. Perhaps it's time to get back to "in the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth".

Just a suggestion... based upon facts and wisdom, not personal opinion or ephemeral feelings.


Edited by sparky on Aug 12, 2019 at 02:19 AM


SBB_Michelle
Joined: Nov 4, 2015

This site brings me pain.


Posted: Aug 12, 2019 04:13 AM    Msg. 8 of 21       
Edit:

I had this really long message explaining myself here, but I just learned that being nice and genuine on this site is not worth anything.

You know. I feel good, and I try to spread happiness. But then I go here and I just die on the inside.

I give up. Meet me on my server if you want. But don't even mention this site if you can help it.
Edited by SBB_Michelle on Aug 12, 2019 at 02:19 PM


lolslayer
Joined: Mar 21, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMHbAKvPJkU


Posted: Aug 12, 2019 07:27 AM    Msg. 9 of 21       
It's okay to promote your discord server, I'm in there as well, but the hit piece against HMF was uncalled for


DeadHamster
Joined: Jun 8, 2014

https://discord.gg/Neu4EJM


Posted: Aug 12, 2019 07:32 AM    Msg. 10 of 21       
I can highly recommend their Discord Server to anybody who wants to be told to use python and how wonderful Linux is. They love to do that.


Kinnet
Joined: Dec 27, 2013

FeelsGoodMan


Posted: Aug 12, 2019 08:38 AM    Msg. 11 of 21       
Quote: --- Original message by: SBB_Michelle
(this site is hell)

no u


Lateksi
Joined: Jan 1, 2010


Posted: Aug 12, 2019 09:32 AM    Msg. 12 of 21       
It's a good discord for any content creator.


sparky
Joined: Jun 27, 2009

Jesus is a friend to the vindictive sociopath


Posted: Aug 12, 2019 11:37 AM    Msg. 13 of 21       
"Kindness is the golden chain with which society is bound together." -- Göthe
There is also Justice and Righteousness.
Justice means working for the betterment of everyone involved in a situation. Justice is the opposite of revenge.
Righteousness is purity to God who alone is good.
These are the things needed for success in any social group. "Let not the wise man boast of his wisdom nor the strong man boast of his strength nor the rich man boast of his riches, but let him who boasts boast about this: that he understands and knows me, that I am The Lord who exercises Kindness, Justice, and Righteousness on Earth, because in these things I delight."
So life is not about the smarts nor the abilities nor the possessions. It's about being a god -- a person like God. "I have said that you are gods" from Psalm 82.

It is time to stop relying upon your own selves. You have not been successful on your own so far, so why not accept some good guidance, some good help? Open your eyes, uncover your ears, and soften your hearts, so that you might learn from God who alone is good, who created each one of us and put within each of us a conscience. "Reject the wrong and choose the right." "Love your neighbor as yourself; forgive each other from your heart."

"The mystery of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to those on the outside everything is expressed in parables, so that, 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven.'" (Mark 4:11-12).

You want others to change, but are you unwilling to change? There is a saying, "When you remember how hard it is to change yourself, you begin to see what little chance one has of changing others." As the disciples said, "Who then can be saved?" Jesus replied, "With man this is impossible, but with God, all things are possible." "No one can come to me unless my Father draws them, and then I will raise them up during The Last Day."

Understand this: Jesus Christ took on all mankind's problems -- past, present and future -- and healed and raised the dead and saved. He came down from Heaven to live as The Son of Man, God's definitive intercessor for mankind, so that whoever would accept God through him is spiritually reborn into truth and eternal life. "It is written, 'they will all be taught by God.' Whoever looks to the Father and learns from him comes to me. And whoever comes to me I will never turn away, because I did not come down from Heaven to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me: that I shall not lose any of all he has given to me but raise them up during The Last Day. For my Father's will is that whoever looks to The Son and believes in him will not perish but have eternal life, and I will raise them up during The Last Day."

You don't have to keep relying upon yourselves and your own wills and your own capacities. Know The Intercessor, The Savior of The World. Payment has been made in full for anyone who looks to God and learns from God through Jesus Christ. He said, "You judge by human standards. I cast judgment on no one. But if I do judge, my judgments are correct, because I [do not seek to please myself but him who sent me / do not speak on my own but stand with him who sent me]." "Whoever speaks on their own does so to gain honor for themselves. But whoever speaks on behalf of the one who sent him is a man of truth in whom there is nothing false."

So this is what I still see here: you're all still relying upon yourselves, and speaking to gain honor for yourselves! Your goals then will only ever be flawed. Take the time -- make the investment in your life -- to accept The Lord Righteousness as your righteousness and salvation. Salvation means being kept safe from evil and death. And it's permanent: "Whoever believes has eternal life and can no longer die -- he has crossed over from death to life."

This is what I want for you. But it's not up to me, as he explained, it is up to God to draw you to himself "with faithful, loving kindness". "I have loved you with an everlasting love. I have drawn you to myself with faithful, loving kindness, and you belong to me." The Lord takes care of his own. Wherever they may be.

You must gain knowledge, understanding, faith, belief, and thereby become permanently safe. "I give you my peace. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled, and do not be afraid. [Trust in God, trust also in me.]"

People who did not have The Intercessor with them repeatedly backslid. They were repeat offenders, so-to-speak. Those who now have Immanuel (which means "God with us", God's Presence) are reminded that he said, "And surely I am with you always, even until the very end of the age [of mankind]."

Edited by sparky on Aug 12, 2019 at 12:30 PM
Edited by sparky on Aug 12, 2019 at 12:34 PM


SBB_Michelle
Joined: Nov 4, 2015

This site brings me pain.


Posted: Aug 12, 2019 12:06 PM    Msg. 14 of 21       
Quote: --- Original message by: DeadHamster
I can highly recommend their Discord Server to anybody who wants to be told to use python and how wonderful Linux is. They love to do that.


That actually hasn't happened after you left. You came during the transitional period I guess. We've adjusted to not doing that anymore. You came very close to the inception of the server.

I actually started packing my python scripts into exe files to avoid people having troubles with them. Because I ended up realizing that was the easier solution.

Sorry for being an ass in February.

You're invited if you want to see if we can actually hold true to what I just said. But also if you just want to hang out!


supersniper
Joined: Jul 28, 2007

fear the sniper


Posted: Aug 12, 2019 01:26 PM    Msg. 15 of 21       
It's 12 years since I registered on this site, and it's still the exact same. God the Halo CE community will never change.


HandofGod
Joined: Jan 10, 2014

Halo Mac/MD Player & Modder


Posted: Aug 12, 2019 02:47 PM    Msg. 16 of 21       
Quote: --- Original message by: TangoTan
This community is full of vile, putrid personalities. When I came here, my intent was to be as nice and as helpful as possible, and I was. I did nothing but try to be kind and share what I had learned. Your spiteful trash has rubbed off on me, I want nothing to do with this now. Michelle, Deadhamster, Masterz, and everyone else (you know who you are). You are disgusting individuals and I hope someone puts a bullet in your head.


The last sentence was really unnecessary. But the rest of it is your opinion, so I guess people should respect that.


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Aug 12, 2019 06:35 PM    Msg. 17 of 21       
Quote: --- Original message by: HandofGod
The last sentence was really unnecessary. But the rest of it is your opinion, so I guess people should respect that.
This is the same person from Yuba City, CA that was banned for language the other day. I have forwarded his posts and threats of violence plus the various Comcast IP addressees he has used to the Yuba County Sheriff dept for potential follow up. With all the mass shootings these days you have to take these things seriously. If he returns please do not engage.


sparky
Joined: Jun 27, 2009

Jesus is a friend to the vindictive sociopath


Posted: Aug 14, 2019 06:45 AM    Msg. 18 of 21       
@Dennis
A person should do what they genuinely believe is best.

But such evaluations take a bit of effort and thought (evaluation means consideration) and that's not the kind of situation that would make me feel good to feel the need to make. (I'll leave that sentence grammatically incorrect, thank you.)

Perception and perspective are relevant. Here's a hand drawing I just did showing my perspective of life. Enjoy.



Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Aug 14, 2019 03:01 PM    Msg. 19 of 21       
Quote: --- Original message by: sparky
@Dennis
A person should do what they genuinely believe is best.

Don't try to inject yourself into something in which you have only partial information.


sparky
Joined: Jun 27, 2009

Jesus is a friend to the vindictive sociopath


Posted: Aug 15, 2019 05:35 AM    Msg. 20 of 21       
Quote: --- Original message by: Dennis
Quote: --- Original message by: sparky
@Dennis
A person should do what they genuinely believe is best.

Don't try to inject yourself into something in which you have only partial information.


(Respecting people's opinion + offending people) / 2 ≠ "love your neighbor as yourself"

Somewhere in the equation you have to fit kindness and empathy to meet the golden rule of "do to others what you would have them do to you", otherwise it all might as well descend into mass murder -- after all, if we all start condemning each other, who is to say where it should stop? Mussolini said it should stop with him because he had the biggest guns -- but if you know anything about the afterlife, it would be a probable guess that Mussolini is now dead and burning in Hell for the consequences of his actions. Or are we to agree with the war cry of muslims and islam, and believe that by murdering the most number of educated white people (read: Christians) one can earn their way into Heaven and be sexually entertained by 72 virgins? Is not such a ridiculous lie? Is not such a war cry against civilization? Is not such actually wrong? If it is wrong, then what is right? Mussolini did not care what was right, which is why he subscribed to Relativism. On the other hand, people who listen to the only true God and his only son are taught by God what is right -- and they adhere to his words and gain eternal life because of him.

Quote: --- Original message by: Dennis
Quote: --- Original message by: HandofGod
The last sentence was really unnecessary. But the rest of it is your opinion, so I guess people should respect that.
was banned...threats of violence...all the mass shootings...you have to take these things seriously...do not engage.


If you are taking these things seriously, and you were not personally involved in several "mass shootings", then that means you are taking seriously reports by one or more people who have reported such things.

Look around. "For where is the wrath of the oppressor?"

Why should one be concerned with that which they cannot do anything about themselves? My conclusion has been to ignore the news, because the world will end with or without my input.

But I take God's words seriously, and that is why I have insight and wisdom. And one command is to "love your neighbor as yourself", which, when obeyed, means you "forgive" and "do not murder".

Maybe then it is time to inject more of what I know into this about which I have an excess of meaningful information -- unlike news reporters who merely as quickly as possible regurgitate what the CIA or wikileaks tells them without bothering to consider the psychological effects of bringing war into the living room.

So do you want to know about and talk about and spread information about evil war which you cannot affect, or would you rather know about and talk about and spread information about good compassion which you can exhibit? "The good man brings good things out of the good stored in his heart and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored in his heart. For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks."

The decision seems simple to me. Believe me, I've had my fair share of seeing people be murdered and beaten, and I've seen my fair share of people's heads being blown off. Surely right now I could link you to a video that would become a red pill that you and others -- even in your older age -- would probably regret having watched because of the resultant nightmares it would give you. But these are scars, not edifying examples. Why seek justice in psychological warfare when you can seek justice from The Creator?

You're going to trust the police then? Let's escalate that a little further. Maybe you want to write to the president. Maybe you want the military involved, maybe there should be a war against mass shootings. Understand this: "Many seek an audience with a ruler, but it is from The Lord that one gets justice." (Proverbs 29:26).

You said you take mass shootings seriously, so then seriously think, what will a police officer do with that person? They will go to their residence, knock on their door, and ask them if they are a danger to themselves or to others. They might then call the local church minister who is on-call and the officer's partner would stay while the minister comes and probably does a terrible job trying to empathize with the person.

Or we can cut to the chase and I can advocate for empathy and loving your neighbor as yourself. That seems more economical than you taking the time to report their IP to their local police "for follow-up" -- but there is no follow-up if there has not yet been any effort at exercising real justice. And real justice, as I said earlier, means working for the betterment of everyone involved in a situation.

So I will either work for justice for everyone here, or I will leave. After all, you will either accept my opinion or you will try to silence me. Internet Censorship: 1, Net Neutrality: 0.

https://www.fightforthefuture.org/

What a stupid slogan. Why don't they just keep their opinions to themselves?!

Should people forget all reasons for civility, and instead simply snitch and litigate, betray and hate, and be afraid of each other? Congrats, you reported them to the police. I'm sure the police have their hands full with many other would-be murderers. All you've done is offloaded the burden without lifting a finger to bring good to the situation. Feel good about yourself. Much kudos. Meanwhile, The Lord Righteousness, Savior of the World, who gave his own life to save murderers, said, "My Father is always at his work, even to this very day, and I am also working." He is the one who "led justice to victory; in his name the nations will put their hope". So while you are relying upon mortal men to clean up the mess you push over to them, I am citing historical REASON for laws so that maybe -- just maybe -- people who use this thing you maintain might be able to see reason and choose to do what is right (in their own lives and on this forum) rather than offload their own problems onto others like your example.

Sorry if I am offending you, but I defend what is right regardless of the self-righteousness in the mind of the observer or the self-esteem in their heart. Such is discipline.

Discipline or death.

Quote: --- Original message by: Dennis
Don't try to inject yourself...


Why should you try to silence me? Jesus replied, "If I said something wrong, testify as to what is wrong. But if I spoke the truth, why did you strike me?" (John 18:23).

I said it years ago and you did not listen: If this place is found lacking, it will surely end. How can we ignore anger and interpersonal conflicts and expect a thriving community with many halo maps and much camaraderie and fun and collaboration and sharing? You have been unjustly selective of what information you are willing to have people share -- even at times like this when it is the main premise of the topic that addresses the rot at the core of the apple. Nobody wants to bite into this apple anymore, because they see it is rotten. That's why they're looking elsewhere and making their own social avenues so that they can see what it's like to be a community manager. Surely you will point the finger and say you did nothing wrong, but if you are willing to cast blame, then show us how it should be done. Or if things are so copacetic with the forum management, then why does this thread have to exist and why do I have to say anything about interpersonal conflict? If you've done such a wonderful job as an example to others and at managing this web site and its forum, even as to not need to dedicate much time to it because it practically runs itself, why all the complaints in this thread by people who exhibit interpersonal conflict?

Shall I continue or has the dawn of reason risen on the minds of the readers?

Something is wrong, and we collectively have testified as to what is wrong, as God and Jesus Christ commanded for real justice. Will you accept betterment?

Quote: --- Original message by: SBB_Michelle

Edit:

I had this really long message explaining myself here, but I just learned that being nice and genuine on this site is not worth anything.

You know. I feel good, and I try to spread happiness. But then I go here and I just die on the inside.

I give up. Meet me on my server if you want. But don't even mention this site if you can help it.
Edited by SBB_Michelle on Aug 12, 2019 at 02:19 PM


"Do not give dogs what is sacred. Do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet and then turn and tear you to pieces." (Matthew 7:6).

Quote: --- Original message by: Dennis
...you have only partial information.


OK so you don't want me to use your forum. I get it. Great forum management work there, naming and shaming and rejecting people... but I will say this one more thing:

I quote God because God does not "have only partial information".
Yet that is why you reject me.
So it seems you do not actually want wisdom or people to speak who have more than "partial information".

...because equality.

Checkmate. Best two out of three?


Quote: Because of the increase in wickedness, the love of most will grow cold. But he who stands firm to the end will be kept safe.


So I help with a simple solution. Soften your heart. Dulling your senses does not make you safe, but ignorant. (Is it safe to walk around with your eyes closed? Neither is it safe to communicate before considering the nature of the one with whom you are communicating.) Which is safer: a loving and nurturing environment or a cold void of bitterness, hatred, anger, and strife? Is it safer for your wellbeing in outer space or with your loving parents? So then why feel pain, become defensive, harden your heart, and retreat into the cold, dull, lifeless void of apathy? Isn't it better to love and understand through consideration and empathy and thus have your eyes open to make an informed statement? God's love is infinite, and he is most patient. Surely his words are worth considering then.

Quote: Listen! A farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants, so that they did not bear grain. Still other seed fell on good soil. It came up, grew and produced a crop, some multiplying thirty, some sixty, some a hundred times what was sown.

Edited by sparky on Aug 15, 2019 at 08:08 AM

One last thing.
This is what anyone can clearly see who visits this forum:
- The forum owner points the finger at the community, implicitly blaming them for causing their own problems by the content of their messages, and bans people who show emotional disturbance and say the wrong thing.
- The community blames the forum owner for not being active enough and not giving them new things, and badmouth him and his work to his face and behind his back, thus being dishonorable ingrates.
- The community attacks each other openly and behind each other's backs.
- I come along and see this and quote God who said, "Any kingdom divided against itself will be ruined." I proceed to point to the solution. The forum owner refuses to accept that there is a problem and the community refuses to change their ways, both refuse to listen to God who alone is good, and both proceed to reject, insult, mock, ridicule, and try to hurt me in every way they can indefinitely without any end to their hatred in sight.

Tell me again how this community is not divided, and how Jesus Christ's words are irrelevant and unhelpful, and how stupid I am for mentioning God in this godforsaken place. GO AHEAD AND TELL ME.

Quote: Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me. All this I have spoken while still with you. But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, who the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

vs
Quote: "There is no peace," says The Lord, "for the wicked."


Which do you want. Life is short so consider carefully and make up your mind quickly.
Edited by sparky on Aug 15, 2019 at 12:14 PM




Edited by sparky on Aug 15, 2019 at 12:23 PM


Dennis

Joined: Jan 27, 2005

"We are made of starstuff.” ― Carl Sagan


Posted: Aug 15, 2019 03:00 PM    Msg. 21 of 21       
Quote: --- Original message by: sparky

Quote: --- Original message by: Dennis
Quote: --- Original message by: sparky
@Dennis
A person should do what they genuinely believe is best.

Don't try to inject yourself into something in which you have only partial information.


(Respecting people's opinion + offending people) / 2 ≠ "love your neighbor as yourself"

You have no idea and yet you work so hard to act unlikable. Your opinion in the matter is unwarranted, misinformed and not required.

 

 
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